auto to hydro?

oki i have everything i need to convert my automatic to a manual, all i need to do is pick and pull the pieces. i know the 2gen tegs that came manual were cable but does that mean i MUST use a cable tranny? help i have a motor waiting to live in my g2

you don’t HAVE to use a cable tranny. But its sort of dumb not to. Switching to hydro will be costly and more time consuming. Really there is no worthwhile benefit of having a hydro tranny that makes such a swap a thing that you would want to do.

i kno that there no pro’s to having hydro, but it came with the motor, so i doubt ill have enough funds to buy another tranny while waiting for someone 2 buy the hyrdo one. BTW can you give me either a link or like a price for that cable to hydro conversion kit. thanxs

well, i’ve been told that the cable to hydro conversion kit isn’t made anymore. Most likely because they didn’t sell enough of them----which is most likely because its pretty much pointless.

the company that made the kits was HASport. I’m not sure what their website is, but i’m sure you can do a search and find it. They also make the motor mount kits that allow b series trannies to fit into civics.

i’d start looking for a buyer for that tranny now if you’re worried about time being a problem

hey 2simplex im planning on swapping my auto tranny to a manual this summer. i was wondering if when your done you could help me out and tell me if you ran into any problems or if you could give me any tips about the swap. also what tranny are you gunna use thats cable type and good? cause i cant think of any usdm car that had a good cable tranny for vtec. would i wanna get a jdm tranny? also where are you gunna get your ecu switched over at?

thanks

i seen this posted before and there hasnt been a clear answer to it probley because no one has done it. so if i had a auto tranny g2 and i wanted to convert it to a 5 speed could i go with a hydro tranny instead of a cable tranny. would it be that much harder to put in the hydro setup then the cable setup? it would save alot of time for the auto tanny g2ers that want to swap a b18c and switch to a 5speed at the same time.

d3: yes, it is that much more difficult to swap to a hydro tranny.

You need a kit to do it. And from what i hear, the kit isn’t made anymore. Which means that swapping to hydro would require many many many hours of custom fabrication----this is expensive.

I don’t understand why you guys are even listing a hydro tranny as an option. When you lay out all the facts there are ZERO reasons to go hydro. Who cares if it comes on the b18c1? Its not like you can’t sell the tranny and buy a cable one.

Think about it this way. To go hydro:
-you will need to buy the hydro conversion kit, which may not even exist anymore

End Result: —Converting to hydro will be VERY expensive and VERY time consuming.

Staying cable tranny:
-sell the hydro tranny for $700-$1000
-buy cable tranny for $300-$600

End result: profit $100-$700

So, as you can see the benefits of staying cable are:
-saves time
-saves money (if not makes you money)
-is MUCH easier

while the benefits of going hydro are nonexistant.

sorry i thought you were talking about the hyrdo/cable tranny converter that allowed you to use a cable 5speed setup with a hyrdo tranny

ok you do have very good point there that the conversion kit isnt being made nemore, so i guess its better to wait and sell the hydro and buy a cable and make a little side money. guess a little more time isnt going to hurt me, besides its the “off season” here in chicago, so as long as im good to go buy spring im happy.

dino: the only good cable tranny usdm is the gsr one, i dont know the exact code for it but ask any gsr member and i bet theyt know it. and for the ecu to my knowldege i thought it was a plug-n-play. i could be wrong. i dont know 100%

the 92-93 gsr tranny isn’t the only good tranny out there. OH, and by the way, the 92-93 gsr tranny code is “ys1” however, just because it says ys1 on the tranny does not insure that the tranny will be a vtec one. many 90-93 integra trannies were labeled “ys1” not just the gsr’s. And unfortunately you can’t tell from looking at a tranny if its a vtec one or an ls one ----so if you buy one of these trannies, make sure you trust the person who is selling it.

the other good trannies to get are: y1, s1, j1 These will be from 89-91 jdm b16a engines. The reason these aren’t as favorable as the gsr ys1 is because they have even shorter gears ----which yeilds higher rpms on the freeway, which most of us would rather avoid.

One nice thing is that you can easily swap an ls tranny’s 5th gear into any of the above trannies. That will give you 4 short gears, plus one taller 5th gear for the freeway ----thus the best of both worlds.

For more b series tranny info check out: http://tiiite.b16a.com/Bgears.htm

dino: the only good cable tranny usdm is the gsr one, i dont know the exact code for it but ask any gsr member and i bet theyt know it. and for the ecu to my knowldege i thought it was a plug-n-play. i could be wrong. i dont know 100%

it seems like a 92-93 gsr tranny would be hard to find since i think only like %10 of integras were gsr’s. also there is a difference between AT and 5 speed ecus im not exactly sure what the difference is but i think that the redline on an auto ecus lower and i think theres other differences, im just not sure if itd work since i dont have much experience with swaps but i was happy today when my b16a started up:) . just had to add that in cause im super stoked

later

dino: yes, the ecu’s are different. If you swap to a 5spd you must use an ecu from a 5spd.

however, if you would like you can have your auto ecu chipped. In most cases when a place chips an ecu they will convert the ecu to 5spd.

and yes, gsr ys1 trannies are hard to find. But not impossible. If you have the time and money I say look for one. If not, then i’d look for a y1/s1/j1 tranny and just swap in your ls 5th gear.

91integgs

the other good trannies to get are: y1, s1, j1 These will be from 89-91 jdm b16a engines
just to clear my question to 2simplex up… i asked about usdm trannies, not jdm. the reason id favor a usdm tranny is that i wont have to pay for shipping, plus if it doesnt work i could drive the tranny back to where i got it instead of having to pay additional shipping charges to ship a roached jdm tranny back because in the end youd end up paying so much in shipping that you could just fix the problem but end up paying twice as much as youd expected ya know what i mean?

you think a gsr tranny would be much more expensive then a jdm tranny + shipping?

prices on this stuff really varies a lot. It all depends on if you get lucky. There are some really good deals out there. You just have to look for them (and when i say look, i mean look HARD! and ALL the time).

typically i see y1/s1/j1 trannies go for anywhere between $300-$500. While 92-93 gsr ys1 trannies usually run $400-$700

so, as you can see the prices are similar, but they do vary. Since everyone out there is willing to sell for a different price, you find a lot of variation in prices. Its best just to scour the message boards and places like www.thepartstrader.com and when you see a good deal, be ready to snap it up asap.