# ITR hydro tranny or YS1 cable tranny? **URL:** \ **Category:** Hybrids & Advanced Aftermarket Engine Performance\ **Created:** [December 17, 2001, 7:58pm UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186 "2001-12-17T19:58:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/system/32/1_2.png) [@system](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2001, 7:58pm UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/1 "2001-12-17T19:58:33Z")
Hi, I just want to know witch one should I take?? I planned to buy a B18C5, and the problem is witch tranny should I take? I already have the YS1 tranny (original in GSRs) and I am not sure of the hydrolic cluch of the ITR tranny. I guess YS1 trannys are quicker but I need help… Thanks… (YES I will be a member soon) ---
**Author:** ![JETSPD1477](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/jetspd1477/32/64_2.png) [@JETSPD1477](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/JETSPD1477)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2001, 9:24pm UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/2 "2001-12-17T21:24:14Z")
You cannot use hydraulic style transmissions in second generation integras. ---
**Author:** ![G2guru](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/g2guru/32/11_2.png) [@G2guru](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/G2guru)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2001, 9:27pm UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/3 "2001-12-17T21:27:06Z")
Actually Elmer, you can now but it’s kinda cheesy. You have to purchase the Place Racing Hydraulic to Cable converter ($200+) and it looks nasty. So I would still go with the GSR YS1. That’s what I’m running with my ITR setup. ---
**Author:** ![JETSPD1477](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/jetspd1477/32/64_2.png) [@JETSPD1477](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/JETSPD1477)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2001, 9:32pm UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/4 "2001-12-17T21:32:02Z")
He he, I recently saw the Place Racing hydro to cable kit and yes it is very ugly looking. That’s why I say “not able” to use. Good to see that you’re still around Dan, hope things are doing well with you. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/system/32/1_2.png) [@system](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2001, 12:01am UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/5 "2001-12-18T00:01:14Z")
Re: ITR hydro tranny or YS1 cable tranny? > Originally posted by timelimit > [B]Hi, I just want to know witch one should I take?? > I planned to buy a B18C5, and the problem is witch tranny should I take? I already have the YS1 tranny (original in GSRs) and I am not sure of the hydrolic cluch of the ITR tranny. I guess YS1 trannys are quicker but I need help… [/B] I would use the ITR tranny since it has a few advantages: closer gearing LSD stronger one piece shift forks probably less miles If you dont want to use the hydro casing you can swap the internals between the 2 trannies. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/system/32/1_2.png) [@system](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2001, 12:16am UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/6 "2001-12-18T00:16:20Z")
i agree with 91teg4sale. personally I would buy the conversion kit (even tho it ugly) from Place Racing and run the ITR tranny. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/system/32/1_2.png) [@system](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2001, 1:00am UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/7 "2001-12-18T01:00:46Z")
are the '92-'93 g2s not hydraulic? d ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/system/32/1_2.png) [@system](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2001, 1:54am UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/8 "2001-12-18T01:54:53Z")
92-93 GS-R YS1 tranny’s are not hydrolic, they’re cable. And you can put an LSD in this tranny. I’ve got a GS-R YS1 on my B18A1. -Steve ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/system/32/1_2.png) [@system](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2001, 3:45am UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/9 "2001-12-18T03:45:15Z")
but the question is… will I be quicker with ITR tranny or with YS1??? because I saw a video of a type-r while dragging and I compared each gear with max speed at 8300rpm (cut off of my engine) and I can see that my first and second gear are shorter that ITR tranny. any expert here? thanks for your help ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/system/32/1_2.png) [@system](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2001, 3:22pm UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/10 "2001-12-18T15:22:46Z")
> Originally posted by timelimit > [B]but the question is… will I be quicker with ITR tranny or with YS1??? > because I saw a video of a type-r while dragging and I compared each gear with max speed at 8300rpm (cut off of my engine) and I can see that my first and second gear are shorter that ITR tranny. any expert here? thanks for your help [/B] The gears on the ITR tranny are closer to each other making it quicker. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/system/32/1_2.png) [@system](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2001, 4:08pm UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/11 "2001-12-18T16:08:20Z")
I’ve just find what i was looking for 🙂 I was right 93 GSR tranny are quicker just go there and look … [http://tiiite.b16a.com/Bgears.htm](http://tiiite.b16a.com/Bgears.htm) ---
**Author:** ![zoomintegra](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/zoomintegra/32/38_2.png) [@zoomintegra](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/zoomintegra)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2001, 4:23pm UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/12 "2001-12-18T16:23:37Z")
heh…look again. looks to me like with the final drive taken into account, that JDM ITR is BY FAR the closest (or as they say tiiitest :D) ratios on the page. meaning THAT is the quickest tranny on there. I’m going to the honda dealer today to inquire about the price of a new ITR (USDM) gearset, if it’s not too bad i’ll be throwin’ it in my casing. if it IS a high-priced item (most likely will be) i think i’ve found a JDM ITR tranny for sale that i could just take everything out of from the inside, which would be awesome 'cause of those shift forks they have. yum. either way, results of my field trip posted later. i have a bus to catch. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/system/32/1_2.png) [@system](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2001, 5:02pm UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/13 "2001-12-18T17:02:42Z")
okay!!! I was comparising with the USDM Y21 tranny 🙂 and you say that ITr tranny gear fits in my GSR gearbox?? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/system/32/1_2.png) [@system](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2001, 5:33pm UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/14 "2001-12-18T17:33:15Z")
> Originally posted by timelimit > [B]I’ve just find what i was looking for 🙂 I was right 93 GSR tranny are quicker just go there and look … [http://tiiite.b16a.com/Bgears.htm](http://tiiite.b16a.com/Bgears.htm) [/B] Yeah, jason is an authority on cable trannies, he cant even get the years right. Other pages where you migth find what you are looking for are [b16a.com](http://b16a.com) and eric baurs site-they are all different. Lets assume jason page is correct. The YS1 have a bigger space between 1st and 2nd causing you to drop in the rpm between shifts vs the ITR closer gearing==staying in the powerband==“quicker” Thats why s1 and j1 cable trannies are quicker in the 1/4 mile then the YS1. The spacing of the gears is closer. I counted the teeth on each gear in the trannies I have access to and as result my YS1 tranny sits in my garage and I have been using other trannies in my car. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/system/32/1_2.png) [@system](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2001, 6:03pm UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/15 "2001-12-18T18:03:24Z")
ok now i’m confused… … What the &|/$?% now just tell me witch one is better for a b18c5 … cable trannys only Thanks 😉 ---
**Author:** ![G2guru](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/g2guru/32/11_2.png) [@G2guru](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/G2guru)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2001, 6:15pm UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/16 "2001-12-18T18:15:35Z")
Use the GSR YS1. It’s a great tranny. The ITR Tranny is nice, escpecially with the JDM final drive and LSD, but it’s not that great. My friend that used to have a JUN powered ITR that made 195whp on the dyno ran with me at the track. Even with his JDM final drive, we were pretty dead even. This is what I recommend you do. If you are looking for a tranny to install now, install the GSR YS1. Then sell the ITR tranny (probably get at least $800 out of it) and buy a Quaife Differential (way better than the ITR LSD). Order a JDM ITR final drive and first gear from [Godspeed Motorsports](http://godspeed.hack.net/). That will be a MUCH better setup than the ITR tranny. Gear swapping is not that difficult if you have the right tools. Best of luck. ---
**Author:** ![zoomintegra](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/zoomintegra/32/38_2.png) [@zoomintegra](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/zoomintegra)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2001, 7:59pm UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/17 "2001-12-18T19:59:59Z")
dan, that link was messed up i think. just got a blank white page. tried [godspeedmotorsports.com](http://godspeedmotorsports.com) and they didn’t really have jack. help a brother out? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/system/32/1_2.png) [@system](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2001, 8:22pm UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/18 "2001-12-18T20:22:14Z")
> Originally posted by G2guru > Gear swapping is not that difficult if you have the right tools. What tools might these be? I’ve been told that putting an LS 5th gear in a shorter tranny would be too hard because the tolerances were to close. If you’re going to answer this, look in the Engine Hybrid forum. Once I post this, I’ll create a thread there so that we can Archive it. -Steve ---
**Author:** ![G2guru](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/g2guru/32/11_2.png) [@G2guru](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/G2guru)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2001, 8:54pm UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/19 "2001-12-18T20:54:56Z")
Sorry guys, the site addy changed. I found it and fixed the link. You can click it now and it will lead you to the right place. Steve, swapping gears is not for the novice mechanic, but it’s not that hard either. Just time consuming. You need all the basic tools as well as snap ring pliers, bearing pullers, feeler gauges, and a slide hammer. Let me know if you have any other questions. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.g2ic.com/user_avatar/forum.g2ic.com/system/32/1_2.png) [@system](https://forum.g2ic.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2001, 9:03pm UTC](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186/20 "2001-12-18T21:03:54Z")
> Originally posted by G2guru > Let me know if you have any other questions. Yeah, if I drive up to Oregon and promise you dinner, will you teach me/do it for me?😃 😃 😃 -Steve [Next page](https://forum.g2ic.com/t/itr-hydro-tranny-or-ys1-cable-tranny/19186.md?page=2)