i hear about them leaking oil after 5 months of use or something, i wanna put a gsr head on my b18a, what are some problems i mioght possibly run into?:read:
They can last if built right. But most people don’t build them right. The stock ls block is not meant to go over around 7000rpm. You need to do a full engine rebuild. I don’t know exactly what goes into it to do a quality one but my friend has a shop called Honda Fiend over in covina, CA. His phone #is (626)653-2888. Ask for eric and tell him scottie sent you. He has lsvtec engines lasting over 3 years now.
Peace,
Scottie
thanks man:cool:
Originally posted by tsarya
They can last if built right. But most people don’t build them right. The stock ls block is not meant to go over around 7000rpm. You need to do a full engine rebuild. I don’t know exactly what goes into it to do a quality one but my friend has a shop called Honda Fiend over in covina, CA. His phone #is (626)653-2888. Ask for eric and tell him scottie sent you. He has lsvtec engines lasting over 3 years now.
Peace,
Scottie
You know Eric? So do I. I’ve been going to him since he was Swap Shop in Montclair. And even before that we used to go through Pete “Petes Backyard”. My friend recently (maybe 2-3 weeks ago) took his Red CRX to Honda Fiends did you see it? I was chilling there when he was throwing an H22 in a Civic. Crazyness
i would suggest using that money into a full swap (like a poorman’s ITR)… will last longer and be more reliable.
i want to do a b16 w/ b17 crank possibly boring it to a 1.8/1.9L using high cpr pistons, cams, tuning, VAFC, fuel upgrades, that will scream and be reliable and w/ the near perfect rod/stroke ratio you could rev that thing high…and w/ cams you can be a force to be reckoned with-and it’s cheaper than a reliable ls/vtec or a gsr swap. there’s a lot more i’m leaving out- but you get the idea. Here’s the thing…if you rev a 1.8ls bottom end high…it will blow…just go w/ vtec bottom end…unless you’re rich or you don’t want to rev past 7200. Props to those w/ ls motors pushing some serious POWER. 
Originally posted by Matt1600
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You know Eric? So do I. I’ve been going to him since he was Swap Shop in Montclair. And even before that we used to go through Pete “Petes Backyard”. My friend recently (maybe 2-3 weeks ago) took his Red CRX to Honda Fiends did you see it? I was chilling there when he was throwing an H22 in a Civic. Crazyness [/B]
me too… well I know pete cuz he swapped my motor a couple times… met eric one time or another at petes house.
Originally posted by myNAteg
Semi-built LS (piston seized)
SIRI(NOS blown pisotn rings)
SIRII 11.2:1(dropped valve)
cringe now i never wanna open my hood again
Eric is swapping h22’s daily in hatches. The h22 is almost as cheap as the b16a now. Next time you see eric ask him about a wagon with a b16a automatic.
Peace,
Scottie
I’m probably going to go down there today. My car isn’t running too well right now. It’s leaking a gang of oil from somewhere and I busted an axle. I took it to Eric cause I don’t have time to do it myself. But I’ll hit him up about the wagon.
nyNAteg: what kind of teg do you drive? Where about do you live? I don’t really talk to Pete anymore, mostly Eric.
Peez
Originally posted by Matt1600
[B]I’m probably going to go down there today. My car isn’t running too well right now. It’s leaking a gang of oil from somewhere and I busted an axle. I took it to Eric cause I don’t have time to do it myself. But I’ll hit him up about the wagon.
nyNAteg: what kind of teg do you drive? Where about do you live? I don’t really talk to Pete anymore, mostly Eric.
Peez [/B]
yeah, i don’t talk to pete anymore either. I’m from Pasadnea, but i live in Irvine right now. I have a blue 92 integ…
Do what I did, get a b16a and make it a poor mans itr… although its not really a poor mans because if you do it right you will make way more power than a stock type r… mine runs on 93octane and I can beat most mustangs
Originally posted by load_on
Do what I did, get a b16a and make it a poor mans itr… although its not really a poor mans because if you do it right you will make way more power than a stock type r… mine runs on 93octane and I can beat most mustangs
or get a b18c1 and make a “poorman’s ITR”.
how much can you get a b18c1 for?
just out of curiosity, for the guys who know eric, did you happen to know ingram as well?
i had my ls/vtec setup in great running order for over 25k miles. The only thing that stopped her was carjackers revving the piss out of it for a coupla hundred miles and the headgasket went but thas about it. the prob is not with the swap itself it’s not doing the regular maintenance when you do the swap. For instance, here is everything I did when doing my conversion and is what I’d recommend.
b16a head all seals, grommets,and valve cover gasket,sparkplugs
b18a main bearings replaced, crank inspected, ITR pistons and rings.
YS1 tranny all gaskets, grommets seals replaced
timing belt/tensioner
water pump
oil pump
headgasket
distributor seals,gaskets
all radiator and heater hoses replaced
new cap and rotor for dist.
intake manifold gasket replaced- ITR intake manifold.
thas all I can remember, but I believe I spent about 450 for OEM maintenance parts alone aside from the pistons and rings. Thas what I would budget for. All in all, the motor work including all parts cost me just under 2500, 1300 of that being the b16a motor and tranny w/aftermarked header and LSD shipped from the homeland. any other ?'s lemme know HTH
Guys you really think the lsvtec is not recommend to rev up to 7,200 max? …
i rev it not up to 8,000 and it works fine…
the swap isnt that sensibility that all of you guys think … though
Originally posted by f-bot
[B]Guys you really think the lsvtec is not recommend to rev up to 7,200 max? …
i rev it not up to 8,000 and it works fine…
the swap isnt that sensibility that all of you guys think … though [/B]
how is the power compared to the average Ls or b16? How are the revs up high. i know with a b16, the car revs smooth into the low 8000, I wonder if the Ls/Vtec fels the sam?
bottom end work
So Gen2ls, the only bottom end work you did was pistons, rings and main bearings? How much cost was this. I though the bottom end needed alot more work. And one more question, the lsr setup needs a hdro tranny right?
Re: bottom end work
Originally posted by vtec-typer
So Gen2ls, the only bottom end work you did was pistons, rings and main bearings? How much cost was this. I though the bottom end needed alot more work. And one more question, the lsr setup needs a hdro tranny right?
im really not sure how much the individual pieces were but IMHO if the crank and stock b18a rods are inspected and are in good working order, replacement is not necessary for a NA ls/vtec setup. That is not to say that you can replace the rods, or add the block girdle, but i dont see a big benefit of it for what im looking to get out of the motor. I did have to get a machine shop to shave about 1mm or so off the rods around the wristpins to make the pistons fit properly. That was around $75 in labor. The pistons were like $300 and the main bearings i dunno like $50. The best and most important thing you need to locate is a qualified mechanic- and if you cant find someone that you KNOW will do a good job, that or if you know you cant handle it for sure, then do NOT do this conversion.
HTH
