Have him send me an email. The plastic used for 3D modeling isn’t that expensive, but buying in bulk does help, so we can keep the costs down. My wife has a 92-93 so I’d be on board for a set myself too.
What program are you using the model it ?
Have him send me an email. The plastic used for 3D modeling isn’t that expensive, but buying in bulk does help, so we can keep the costs down. My wife has a 92-93 so I’d be on board for a set myself too.
What program are you using the model it ?
The OEM ones fit VERY snugly, so much so that they’re very hard to remove. You pretty much have to damage the bumper or the plug in order to pry it out. Which, IMO, basically makes the OEM parts a “one time use” kinda thing. I’ve got a BNIB set that I can’t bring myself to install for just this reason
I use MOI3D for the modeling. The plastic is cheap. I’m using PLA at first but will use ABS for the next one. Making a few with printing is ok, but making a lot would be very time consuming and may have consistent quality issues since the printer is not a high end one. I’d go with a local 3d service, and the higher the quantity the better the price obviously. I was worried at first if I ordered just a couple pieces it would be too expensive, but there are places where 1 or 2 pieces would be like 20$. This way I can test their quality first before ordering a higher amount.
Didn’t get a chance to print a second one today. I didn’t have the ABS plastic yet anyways, should arrive soon from Amazon.
Colin, Do you have a caliper to measure the ones you have that are not installed? And from what you can see, does it look like the front face has a small arc, or are they perfectly flat?
I can take some measurements if you’d like, I might have time tonight as I think I’ll be out in the garage a bit anyway. I assume you don’t have access to a 3D scanner? That’d be awesome to scan an OEM one and get the size/shape perfect. I can’t remember if there’s contour to it or not but I’m almost positive there is - more specifically, I’m pretty confident that it exactly matches the contour of the bumper.
Many cities have hackerspaces or similar work areas that have all of the high end tools like 3D scanners. May not hurt to check for one in your area once you’ve perfected the design.
I don’t have access to a 3D scanner and I don’t think someone would feel comfortable mailing theirs to me!
A good measurement of the height and length of the front face with a caliper would be enough, and to try and describe/measure/photograph the front face angle would be great. I saw someone local with the plugs on their car. I would have had to go into their place of work to find out if they would be ok measuring them while on the car (won’t take a chance of damaging them). I chickened out, but I think I might go back.
Colin, if you have a caliper, please measure the left and right one. They should be the same, but I would not take a chance.
For the depth, I would look at making them a bit shallow and the final fit would be based on the adhesive used.
Jason
Never received any emails from the guy with the 3D printer.
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Here’s what I was saying: https://wiki.hackerspaces.org/Quebec
So, if you’re not familiar with hackerspacers, they have things like welding equipment, 3D printers and scanners, and then some. Here is an example of some of the stuff that our local lab offers: https://txrxlabs.org/tools/
These are generally a cheap way to get access to some really expensive tools. (and all sorts of really freaking neat stuff)
Just a thought though. Wouldn’t hurt if you wanted to accurately recreate these in bulk.
I actually stopped today at someones workplace where there was an Integra outside. I asked the guy if it was ok to measure his plugs and he said no problem. I didn’t take them off the car since they are hard to get off. And I only need the surface measurements anyways since I won’t be using the clip in the back.
The guy actually has two Integras, and he has plans for one of them. I told him about G2IC (which he had heard of but not a member I think).
So I have updated measurements and I’ll work on the model with the other improvements I have in mind.
Thanks for the 3D info. The scanning won’t be needed since the model is very basic and measurements are enough. But if I get to the point of making more than a couple and need a place to make a consistent higher quantity, I’ll use all these resources to find the best location.
Okay Peter got back to me, and I’m getting this brother’s (the 3D printer) contact info and we can go from there.
Updated plugs. Need to clean it up a bit but basically done. My initial measurements were ok, it was just the 3D printer sometimes needs to be calibrated to give the exact scale.
Seeing as how the OEM plugs are really not made to come out without causing some damage, I wanted to find a way to remove these ones without damage. I haven’t completed the idea yet, but the plug will have a small half-circle notch (0.5mm radius) halfway up the plug on each side. This will allow you to insert the specially designed pullers (1mm thick paper clip with a small 90 degree hook at the end). You can see the system on the sides where the paper clips can slide in and then hook onto the vertical flat surface (I will probably angle the surface so that the clip grabs more).
The amount of adhesive used to keep the plugs in place should not be excessive. This will allow the user to rock the plug back and forth until it breaks free of the adhesive.
The small half circle notches will be quite small and un-noticeable.
I have 4 sets of bumper plugs if you need detailed pictures I can send some via text.
Detailed pics of the back and side angels would be appreciated. There are really none out there on the web, only front angles. Even though I’m not copying the back side, it is good to have for reference, in case I missed something.
As many have mentioned, I’ll buy a set in a heartbeat!
16 photos emailed, let me know if you need any thing else.
Sorry I’ve been MIA guys, but looks like you’ve gotten what you needed? I can still take some caliper measurements if what you have isn’t enough. Oh, and I love the idea of a way to remove them easily!
Thanks for the pics! I was surprised to see that the two raised areas on the bottom side of the bumper holes were not actually guides for the plugs. I guess they used for the plate holder maybe,
Colin, If you can just confirm the left and right one are the same length, just in case.
The notches appear larger in the photo than they would in person. And I’ll see with the test print if I can make them smaller. I based it on a large paper clip of 1mm diameter. The notch is 0.9mm deep
3D printer person fell through. Anyone else? I can make a post on Facebook.
The two sides just look to be a mirror image of each other. I took some measurements and pics if you want. I also confirmed that there IS a little bit of contour in both directions, so the face of the plug is NOT flat. It’s really minor but could likely be pretty obvious when installed (but mainly depends on how OCD you are - I’m very OCD, lol).
In regard to the notch for easy removal… I’m not sure if I’m seeing it right but it looks like there’s not much material on the face of where the notch is. Meaning that when you pull on the paper clip it might just rip right out and damage the plug instead of removing the hole plug. There are a lot of factors at play so I’m sure it’ll just need some testing.