I will back up the guy that says a wilwood 4 piston bbk will outdo this setup, not to say this setup would suck, but you are comparing a legit bbk to a stock 2 piston setup.
my knowledge? online reading and that i have a bbk myself on my 370z. 4 piston front, 2 piston rear on 14" rotors all around. stops hard, very hard on summer tires. someone in one of my treads stated a g35 will stop just as hard as my setup but i replied saying it doesn’t because i happened to have a friend that has a g35 and i drove it a few times. aside from the braking power, it’s also the pedal feel, modulation, and ultimately the tires that you’re on.
this rsx/legend upgrade is good enough if you’re on a budget or simply don’t need a bbk. and for the record, bbk’s are not only needed for the track because it’s saved my z a few times already where if it was my teg, half the car would’ve been in the back side of the car in front of me
[QUOTE=wdkwang;2249412]I will back up the guy that says a wilwood 4 piston bbk will outdo this setup, not to say this setup would suck, but you are comparing a legit bbk to a stock 2 piston setup.
my knowledge? online reading and that i have a bbk myself on my 370z. 4 piston front, 2 piston rear on 14" rotors all around. stops hard, very hard on summer tires. someone in one of my treads stated a g35 will stop just as hard as my setup but i replied saying it doesn’t because i happened to have a friend that has a g35 and i drove it a few times. aside from the braking power, it’s also the pedal feel, modulation, and ultimately the tires that you’re on.
this rsx/legend upgrade is good enough if you’re on a budget or simply don’t need a bbk. and for the record, bbk’s are not only needed for the track because it’s saved my z a few times already where if it was my teg, half the car would’ve been in the back side of the car in front of me[/QUOTE]
True a real bbk would out due this… but it would be overkill… Think about this for a second, the legend dual piston setup is designed to stop a car that weighs a shitload more than a DA, not to mention the fact that it is almost identical to the setup that also comes on the NSX. And if you go with the theory that bigger discs give you more braking power then the S2000 setup must be killer. I personally have the legend dual piston setup for the front and still run the stock brakes in the rear for now, and it stops on a dime.
All i am saying is if our cars required ginormous bbks it would come from factory and not to mention its overkill. I m sure your brakes saved you couple of times onvthe street and so have mine, but i am saying that legit bbks are made to shine on the track. They are built for a purpose, but many people do it fe the bling factor that hey i gt spoon calipers or big ass bbks on my car. That is all i am saying. For my personal use my itra are very noticeable on the track compared to my stocks i had on. So for the money i spent i am really happy
Agreed, but i also noticed that once i went bigger my brakes werent fading as quickly…which is obviously the bigger rotor size in conjunction with the bigger pads
dominic, would you say that the s2k calipers outperform the legend’s?
i’d really like to utilize a 11.8" rotor to fill up the inside of the wheel for a nicer finish.
and what was your reasoning for using the s2k over the legend/nsx/itr brakes?
[QUOTE=wdkwang;2249463]dominic, would you say that the s2k calipers outperform the legend’s?
i’d really like to utilize a 11.8" rotor to fill up the inside of the wheel for a nicer finish.
and what was your reasoning for using the s2k over the legend/nsx/itr brakes?[/QUOTE]
I couldn’t give a definitive answer to that question as I went from stock to this brake set up. I can tell you the initial bite is a crazy difference as compared to stock. And I’ve never tracked my car on either set up so I couldn’t tell you the difference in brake fade either.
The reason I went with this set up was because it would have cost me just about the same for the legend upgrade so I might as well since it’s bigger.
You have to use the pads of whatever caliper bracket you end up using. I guess if you wanted the best brake upgrade you could go with my set up but use a 2 pot gs caliper on the S2K caliper bracket which would still utilize the S2K’s larger brake pads. That would be pretty sick.
[QUOTE=dominicdiaz8;2249592]In response to MattyG2
You have to use the pads of whatever caliper bracket you end up using. I guess if you wanted the best brake upgrade you could go with my set up but use a 2 pot gs caliper on the S2K caliper bracket which would still utilize the S2K’s larger brake pads. That would be pretty sick.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=asequeira26;2249641]The NSX pads are actually larger than the S2K…
NSX… S2K
edit… The NSX pads are the same as the legends[/QUOTE]
Hmmm. Didn’t know that. But I don’t think the brackets will allow the NSX or Legend calipers to clear the 11.8" rotors. So it may be that the legend 2 pot caliper with the larger brake pad and smaller 11.1" rotor is pretty equal to the bigger 11.8" rotor and smaller pad of the S2K caliper.
What I’d really like to see it a shoot out, of similarly weighted g2’s, to see what brakes better.
Just a question relative to brakes in general…Can you just upgrade to a 1inch master cylinder with an entirely stock set up? What effect would thing have on the brakes? I need to replace it and am just wondering if it makes any difference over the stock, which is 15/16 I believe?
[QUOTE=dominicdiaz8;2249642]Hmmm. Didn’t know that. But I don’t think the brackets will allow the NSX or Legend calipers to clear the 11.8" rotors. So it may be that the legend 2 pot caliper with the larger brake pad and smaller 11.1" rotor is pretty equal to the bigger 11.8" rotor and smaller pad of the S2K caliper.
What I’d really like to see it a shoot out, of similarly weighted g2’s, to see what brakes better.[/QUOTE]
The more research i do on these the more confused i get… Apparently the nsx rotors and the s2k rotors are both the same size… So i dont get why people dont use that size rotor when the do the nsx upgrade
I’m happy with the legends…At this point i guess the only real advantage of doing the legend brakes instead of the S2K brakes, is that the legends are completely bolt on… no milling or drilling required.
Can’t wait to see how you do the rears, been wanting to do that for a while
The rears a straight bolt on, S2K calipers switched left to right, EP3 Si rotors. You have to take the E-brake bracket off the stock caliper and swap it to the other and you have to bleed the calipers unmounted because the bleeder valves are now in the wrong location. I’ve been told to use a c-clamp to hold the piston fixed and bleed them that way.
is there any advantage to doing the S2K rears instead of the RSX or EP3 rears? I know in either swap you use the 4lug EP3 rotors, just wasn’t sure if there is a size difference in calipers
The only advantage I can see is that I got all four used s2k calipers together for $150. If not then you would have to buy front and rears separate and that might be more. Though I don’t know if there is a difference in the size.
Damn…bad news, I was told that the s2k and rsx type s rear calipers are the same, they aren’t (the e-brake brackets are in completely different configurations.), so I couldn’t get the e-brake to work. Looks like I’m going to have to fab up a custom bracket.
Just a question relative to brakes in general…Can you just upgrade to a 1inch master cylinder with an entirely stock set up? What effect would thing have on the brakes? I need to replace it and am just wondering if it makes any difference over the stock, which is 15/16 I believe?
