Abs delete..im getting mixed answers :(

ASSISTANCE Suspension, Brakes & Wheels
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I am going to do an abs delete. I can keep my brake booster and master cylinder correct? I have the 40 40prop valve and thats all I need right? I will be cuttibg my lines and extending if needed. Am I missing any thing?

Things I have:
Prop valve
Brakeline cutter
Tube bending tool
Flareing tool

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Yes, you keep your stock booster and master cylinder. You can swap to the non-abs parts if you like, but i don’t think it’s worth the time or money. Plus, if you plan on running larger brakes at some point you’ll benefit from having the larger (1") ABS master cylinder.

Parts you will need:

  • prop valve
  • brake hard lines from a non-abs car (just the ones that run across the firewall and between the front brakes, you do not need the long ones that go to the rear brakes thru the firewall)
  • your old brake lines will be used to create some extension pieces and you’ll need one fitting for the master cylinder

All of this has been covered in the huge ABS conversion thread. I wouldn’t suggest using your old brake lines and trying to modify them to fit, I don’t see it being very likely you could bend them in a fashion which won’t look ghetto as hell.

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[QUOTE=Colin;2282872]Yes, you keep your stock booster and master cylinder. You can swap to the non-abs parts if you like, but i don’t think it’s worth the time or money. Plus, if you plan on running larger brakes at some point you’ll benefit from having the larger (1") ABS master cylinder.

Parts you will need:

  • prop valve
  • brake hard lines from a non-abs car (just the ones that run across the firewall and between the front brakes, you do not need the long ones that go to the rear brakes thru the firewall)
  • your old brake lines will be used to create some extension pieces and you’ll need one fitting for the master cylinder

All of this has been covered in the huge ABS conversion thread. I wouldn’t suggest using your old brake lines and trying to modify them to fit, I don’t see it being very likely you could bend them in a fashion which won’t look ghetto as hell.[/QUOTE]

But I dont NEED to change my firewall brake lines right? Just cutt and extend them.

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I suppose it’s possible to cut/extend them, but it’s also possible to delete your hardlines and replace all of them with braided lines. Are either of those a good idea? Maybe, maybe not, that’s up to you. IMO, they’re both horrible ideas. Cutting/extending over-complicates the issue. It’s a LOT more work and a lot more connection points which could fail and leak.

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So if I got the brake lines of a non abs da9 they just screw in and bam wala done?

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Not entirely, you’re also going to need two additional lines that you are going need to make and use a flaring tool.

check this thread out:
http://forums.g2ic.com/showthread.php?82563-pics-of-my-non-abs-conversion/page12&highlight=converting+non-abs+brake+lines

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those two lines are for the rear of the prop valve which can be seen here:

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so what you’ll need:

  1. 50/50 prop valve
  2. non-abs brake lines
  3. and those two additional lines that Colin and I mentioned above
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[QUOTE=AV turn’d DA;2282966]those two lines are for the rear of the prop valve which can be seen here:

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The valve behind the 4040 valve is to extend them correct?

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Sorry for being a noob. I havent gotten to stuff like this yet :confused:

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it’s all good.

The arrows are pointing to the two lines that need to be made, since the abs unit is not there so you would need to have these lines in order to extend the proportion valve to the that piece on the firewall (don’t know what that’s called) Hope you get the picture now :slight_smile:

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here’s another in-depth picture:

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[QUOTE=AV turn’d DA;2282985]here’s another in-depth picture:

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YOU ARR AMAZING. Thanks so much totally helped alot I will be doing this hopefuuly next week. Ill let you know how it goes! Thanks!

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[QUOTE=AV turn’d DA;2282966]those two lines are for the rear of the prop valve which can be seen here:

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I also see that there’s another prop valve. Where you get that piece.

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You already have that prop valve if you are referring to the one located at the firewall. The only additional prop valve you need is the 40/40 as mentioned above.

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A prop valve going into another prop valve. Scratching my head. Hmmm I don’t have another one. When I did mine I just used these connectors. Which I really don’t like these connectors I’m using. I want to do em over again.

Here’s how mine looks.

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I wish mine looked that good. Mine is a cluster fuck under the hood from the previous owner deleting ABS.

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[QUOTE=da9bigboi;2286375]A prop valve going into another prop valve. Scratching my head. Hmmm I don’t have another one. When I did mine I just used these connectors. Which I really don’t like these connectors I’m using. I want to do em over again.

Here’s how mine looks.
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sure looks clean :wink:

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Wow just noticed every one quoting my picture everywhere.

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Are auto and manual boosters the same?