Okay now the Intermediate driveshaft or half shaft on the Manual and Automatic tegs are the same length and everything…
there is no difference… people on here says change it… but I found out that they both are the same and you wont need to change it when your doing a Manual tranny conversion…
I took my halfshaft out of my 92 automatic integra… and my halfshaft out of my 91 Manual teg, compare them both and they are the SAME…
I wish I woulda tooken pictures before I sold the other one… But yes they are the same… NO DIFFERENCE in AUTO/MANUAL…
Just posted this in the other thread about the auto-manual swap, I second that they are the exact same. dont waste the money/time waiting for parts you already have.
there is a difference. go try and put a auto halfshaft in with a 5spd tranny. it fits in the tranny but when you go to bolt it up to the block it is off by a little bit. it wont fit flush with the block and holes dont line up right. i helped a friend do the 5spd conversion. the 5spd tranny diff. is in a slightly different position as the auto trans. and throws off the way it lines up. we tried using the auto on and it would not work. there is a gap about half an inch where the bracket meets the block.
brian349 is correct, they are off a little when you try to bolt then to the back of the block. At least this is what I experienced on the 2 swaps that I have done.
I did. When I did my 5 spd conv. and I was waiting for the front tranny mount (mine was in 2 peices) and half shaft, I had basically the whol car put back together besides the drivers side axls and brake/suspension set-up. SO I put the auto one up to see if there was a point in waiting 3 days for that half shaft when I could have the thing back together and all I have to do I put in a front mount. Well I put the auto one in, It went all the way in the diff, and It came back to the proper mounting spot.
But, since changine them was reccomended I decided not to do that just incase, wait and put the 5 spd one in. I still say change them tho, Like stated they make look the same but looks isnt as important as safety, I mean 3mm’s too short at 100 miles an hour, who knows what will happen, plus dumping the clutch and hard shifting it, I bet thats would have a positive effect.
Have you tried to install the automatic intermediate shaft onto the manual transmission when it’s mounted to the engine? There is a difference. The guys that have done this swap, myself included, found out through experience - not just a quick visual comparison.
Speaking of visual comparisons, we didn’t see the difference either until it didn’t fit which prompted a closer inspection. Then we saw it.
Did you bolt the AT shaft to the block with the MT transmission? It may line up when you hold it there, but it will not bolt up in the proper alignment.
different… brian experienced it w/ me while doing my auto - 5spd swap. bracket will not bolt up to the engine. i tried to see if i could modify mine to try and get it to fit by cutting it up and stuff but then just gave up and got the halfshaft. just get the right one.
Both the automatic and 5-speed Intermediate shafts use the exact same shafts; it’s the mounting bracket with three holes on each shaft that is different. Automatic Intermediate shaft will not line up with the engine holes because the flange mounting surface that mates to the engine ends up being ~ 1/2 closer to the motor when installed in a 5 speed transmission. And you can’t even get the mounting surface flush with the motor because the bottom of the bracket hits the motor and stops it from rotating into proper position so it can be bolted.
Bottom line is you cannot use the automatic Intermediate shaft bracket with a manual transmission (unless like was previously suggested you machine off the surface of bracket until it mounts flush with the engine - even then the fitment may be off.) If you somehow do get the automatic Intermediate shaft bolted to the motor you will be putting a lot of strain on both the drivers-side CV shaft and the transmission. “Rebuilt” CV shafts don’t live long on Integras to begin with (well unless you go with quality ones like Raxles) and you really don’t want the Intermediate shaft to be at any angle other than as perpendicular as possible to the transmission (or you will be putting more stress on the intermediate shaft teeth and adding a side load to the transmission differential bearing).