BLOX LCA's and Sway Bars Question!

ASSISTANCE Suspension, Brakes & Wheels
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here’s the question, i upgraded my LCA’s to a BLOX LCA, but still use the standard oem rear sway bar, the thing is the sway bar is kinda longer so i don’t think its in proper position with the LCA right now, what should i do? upgrade to an aftermarket sway bar? or order the blox end links for the sway bar? in any case, wich sway bars do you recommend and why? and if you can tag along the prices too, that would be a plus:

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either buy the blox endlinks or

suspension techniques sway bar:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=STQ-51135&N=700+400279+4294907534+4294924927+4294907070+115&autoview=sku

energy suspension end links:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=ENS-16-8104R&N=700+400008+4294907534+4294924927+115&autoview=sku

thats the setup I was going to go with before I ran out of money :slight_smile:

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Or you can just pull the end of the sway bars down to line up with the hole in the lca then use a nut and bolt to tighten them together… that’s what I did for now until I can get the endlinks or an aftermarket sway bar.

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update:

the blox endlinks wont work with the oem sway bar, you still need an aftermarket one so. just ordered front and rear ST bars so im just waiting for the m to arrive

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anyone got any thoughts on the quality of these (bushes etc)?

plus, anyone got an ITR bar with them? fitment ok?

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what’s the purpose of blox lca’s anyway?

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aftermarket LCAs can reduce unsprung weight, and in my case allow me to run fork rear suspension (xsi has eyelet fitting).

some also allow adjustment of anti roll bar postion and effect, as well as altering camber with differences in length.

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[QUOTE=iveeno;1707058]either buy the blox endlinks or

suspension techniques sway bar:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=STQ-51135&N=700+400279+4294907534+4294924927+4294907070+115&autoview=sku

energy suspension end links:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=ENS-16-8104R&N=700+400008+4294907534+4294924927+115&autoview=sku

thats the setup I was going to go with before I ran out of money :)[/QUOTE]

You posted a rear sway bar with front endlinks… :umno:

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aftermarket LCAs can reduce unsprung weight, and in my case allow me to run fork rear suspension (xsi has eyelet fitting).

some also allow adjustment of anti roll bar postion and effect, as well as altering camber with differences in length.

How would it reduce unsprung weigh? wouldn’t you have to actually remove weight in order to do that?

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This is one of the most critical factors affecting a vehicle’s road holding ability. Unsprung weight is that portion of a vehicle that is not supported by the suspension (i.e. wheels, tires and brakes) and therefore is the most susceptible to road shock and cornering forces. By reducing unsprung weight, alloy wheels provide more precise steering input and improved “turning in” characteristics. So what. SO WHAT!? This is a key concept that many people overlook. We have been telling you for a long time now to get light weight wheels and tires. Here’s how it all comes together.

Every time you hit a bump, the wheel assembly is accelerated upwards, decelerates to a stop, then accelerates downward till it reaches equilibrium. If the wheel can’t accelerate fast enough, shock is transmitted to the body, which may upset the balance of the car. As an example think of small, sharp edged speed bumps versus those gigantic, but wide, monsters in some lots. The sharp edged ones are much more annoying to traverse, aren’t they? That’s because they require the suspension to accelerate more rapidly. Now imagine going over some stutter bumps in a corner. You’ll have a very rapid series of accelerations and decelerations. If the wheel is lighter, it will accelerate upwards and downwards faster (a=F/m). This means it will follow the road better and, even more importantly, it will allow the suspension to work better. The shock and spring will have to control less unsprung weight/mass, which means they can stop and start the motion of the assembly easier and at a rapid pace.

I think unsprung weight has more to do with wheels/tire, brakes more so than LCA’s etc…

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you can lose up to about 4lb, maybe 5lb a corner with certain LCAs, same as downsizing a wheel size. although the further out that weight loss is from the inner LCA joint, the more the pronounced effect, so it would be like like losing maybe 2 - 3lb at the wheel.

so has anyone had any experience of these Blox LCAs the, particularly on the bush quality??

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:quote: aftermarket LCAs can reduce unsprung weight, and in my case allow me to run fork rear suspension (xsi has eyelet fitting).

some also allow adjustment of anti roll bar postion and effect, as well as altering camber with differences in length. :quote:

So to use the DC/EG forks one must use aftermarket LCA?

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only if you have an XSi, as said immediately above.

bump for some others’ experiences with the Blox LCAs, any failures or failing bushes??

or any happy customers?

Also, anyone running them with the ITR sway bar - i’ve been reading on possible issues with endlinks, but it’s not clear whether this combo works on the DA?

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does the aftermarket sway bar mount up differently than stock to work with the lower control arms.

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the only problem with the stock sway bar on those LCAs is that you may wear out bushings faster. I fail to see how your sway bar would not function properly as is.

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the only problem with the stock sway bar on those LCAs is that you may wear out bushings faster. I fail to see how your sway bar would not function properly as is.

The reason why it doesn’t look like it would function properly is because you would have to pull donw HARD on the end of the sway bar to mount to the LCA hole which I don’t you were supposed to do that…

only if you have an XSi, as said immediately above.

bump for some others’ experiences with the Blox LCAs, any failures or failing bushes??

or any happy customers?

Yeah, my Blox LCA bushings died after 4 months, crumbled like a cracker, so now the end of my shocks that mount onto the LCA is basically riding on metal… it’s time to change to the ES bushings… oh well…

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i am having a tough time here:

  1. i currently have (had sitting in my garage for a while) megan racing LCA’s that i was going to install on my car , as i am currently rebuilding the entire vehicle, and i am onto the rear suspension right now. as everyone probly knows, they are pretty much identical to the blox LCA’s. stock swaybar really wont work properly with them.
    -you have to now buy another endlink to make it work. which sucks. why couldnt they just design it to work with it?
  2. i previously installed identical megan racing Lca’s on my 92 EG. this car , however, did not come with factory sway bars at all, so there is no issue there. but when i ordered my ES bushing kit for the entire car, guess what bushings wont fit??? you got it, the rear LCA bushings. the aluminum arm is too thin for the bushing to fit into. : (
  3. is there an aftermarket company that makes LCA’s for our cars , that work with the stock swaybar??
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is there any after maket lca that work right for are cars?

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Back on topic here

I can see the difference here, but do you have any recomendations on a aftermarket endlink

Im currently running the blox lca’s using the extended bolt and washer trick to keep out of the binding postion the op had his in and im ready to place my order for a st rear sway bar and i need a set of solid endlinks to depend on, these washers gotta go;)

maybe even a sperical bearing enlink if anyone know of one

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Skunk2 worked fine for me with a st sway bar. Can post pics if interested.