I have a 91 rs integra auto to manual swap. i have innovative cable to hydro mount kit and i keep running into problems with my axles. both my inner joints keep breaking. its like my axles are to short but it looks like my motor is an inch to far forward, you’ll notice in pics.
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B18B1
S80 Hydro Ls Tranny
90-93 passenger side axle Advanced Auto (new not rebuilt)
94-01 Half Shaft & Axel - Axel is new also not rebuilt
Modified 90-93 rear T bracket (was running 94-01)
Now i have spent lots of time talking to Innovative and have found nothing out yet. they told me it was because i was using a 94-01 T bracket and i needed to run a 90-93 modified to fit 19mm bolts. SO i did and ill let the pics speak for them selves.
the last pic is of it on the ground, with the modified bracket that did nothing. all i keep hearing is they are stock replacement mounts and if i’m running oem axles then they should work but they are not and i haven’t yet got any answers Axel gurus please help!!!
u can easily see in the 4th and 8th pic that the trunion (3 bearings have popped out… it is possible to fix and get them back in tho. u gotta make sure that those inner joints don’t have too much angle on them, they can’t handle that much of a degree. when u r installing them, make sure u don’t let them hang, keep them as leveled as possible. also… if ur car is lowered a lot, that’ll put a lot of angle on those inner joints that they aren’t made to handle. want less trouble then get some upgraded axles, ones that can handle a bit more angle n stuff. there are some shops that have it around, and u could always try Raxles.
that 90-93 axle shouldn’t have a problem whatsoever. i dunno too much about auto to manual conversions, but is there any difference in running a 2nd gen half shaft and axle? i know u got a b18b but i got a b20 and i used my ls half shaft. can anybody confirm whether the dc half shaft works without any issues when running it on a da?
[QUOTE=Squeezethis;1898539]u can easily see in the 4th and 8th pic that the trunion (3 bearings have popped out… it is possible to fix and get them back in tho. u gotta make sure that those inner joints don’t have too much angle on them, they can’t handle that much of a degree. when u r installing them, make sure u don’t let them hang, keep them as leveled as possible. also… if ur car is lowered a lot, that’ll put a lot of angle on those inner joints that they aren’t made to handle. want less trouble then get some upgraded axles, ones that can handle a bit more angle n stuff. there are some shops that have it around, and u could always try Raxles.
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not to be a dick but i know how to install axles its not the problem installing them. i think innovatives mounts are wrong but they dont think so. my caster is fine the wheel is perfect in the center of the wheel well and there still is an angle on both axels.
yes i have tried both 90-93 half shaft and axles and 94-01 half shaft and axles and my car doesnt have abs and the axels i bought are none abs. if you have a b20 what tranny you running a cable? im about 5 seconds away from sending this to hasport but i dont like to bash other companies i just wont my damn car fixed.
You can use the gen 3 L bracket, i know cause i used one no problems for a while I just enlarged the mounting holes. As for the intermediate shaft, either a da or dc one will work. You just need to use the driver side axle the goes with it. So i don’t see a problem with either parts used so far.
look what i have found
its a auto to manual hydro tranny mount they did not have this when i bought my mounts 6 months ago. when i bought them they said the mounts would work fine even since i did the conversion. now i know the tranny needed to be shimmed but the placment of where it is welded looks diffrent then the mount i have.
look at the placement the manual 1 looks like it is welded in the middle and the auto to manual looks like its all the way to the left then welded. so maybe the placement is causing my axles to die off throwing both sides out?
From the center of the firewall directly back to the closest portion of the valve cover (right where the valve cover and head meet, where the gasket goes) = 349mm
From the center of the radiator support directly back to the closest portion of the valve cover (right where the valve cover and head meet, where the gasket goes) = 239mm
Those mounds definitely look different. But wouldn’t that difference move the engine side to side in the engine bay? Seems like your other mount (timing belt side) wouldn’t work properly - doesn’t seem like you could even get it all bolted in.
Once again, this just reaffirms my belief that there is no need for these cable to hydro conversions. Why bother messing w/ all of that stuff, just use a cable tranny. If you must have different gearing, then stick that gearing in a ys1 case… I promise I’m done ranting about that now
well i wasn’t trying to say u dont’ know how to install axles, just some ppl do forget or kinda overlook things. but yeah, i do have a b20b in my ride that i installed myself. i’m running the ls s1 tranny, with ls axles and halfshaft. there’s gonna be a slight angle on both of them, but it shouldn’t be enough to cause them to break.
was just looking at that pic from the underside, where its looking at the half shaft and axle hooked into it… i haven’t looked at mine yet today, but when i did my swap i’m pretty sure that the axle shaft (hub part) mates almost flush with the support bearing (thing it shoves into on the halfshaft). cuz when removing it u have to get a prybar or slide hammer inbetween the two… so i’m pretty confident that its suppose to shove all the way into that half shaft and have the hub right against that support bearing.
So which mount do you have? The auto tranny bracket on the frame rail sits 1 inch higher than the manual one. When i did my hydro swap i removed the bracket from the frame rail and welded a manual one on (i got it from the dealer for 35 bucks) then all i needed was the hydro mount. The mounts are different cause of the postion of the bracket.
If you want to use a hydro tranny, use it. If you want to use a cable tranny, use it. To each his own!
