Im in the process of buying all new suspension for my 93 DB2. After reading a thread from HT ( http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2614449&page=11 ) i have second thoughts about buying a camber kit. My car is already lowered to begin with (from previous owner). I will be upgrading to Koni Yellows w/ GC kit. I wont have the car dumped but lowered a couple of inches. Im currently running the stock 14inch rims. But will swap them for some 15’s (before i install the konis).
I was going to go with skunk2’s pro camber kit front and rear.
After reading various threads/post regarding camber kits, most say that camber kits are NOT needed. From what i understood as long as i get the alignment done right after the koni install and having the “toe” set to factory spec ( 0 ) i should be fine.
Is this also true for the rear? or will i need a camber kit for the rear? The car will occasionally be for daily driving/cruising.
u dont NEED a camber kit, rear camber can be adjusted with shims, definitely get TOE set rite away as toe is what tears tires up the fastest, if u have more than -2 camber and u take a turn really hard u can lose control as i know from experience. i have my camber set at -2 all the way around and she corners like a champ. toe as close to 0 as possible and caster is adjusted through the front torsion bars…
so no u dont NEED them…u can adjust most of it out without the kits.
Camber does certainly wear down tires, though not significantly as having toed in or out, it does certainly help to a degree. So it really doesn’t hurt to have one, and if you do get more serious into autox or road racing in the future, having camber adjustments can indeed be beneficial.
theres horror stories for every part and brand out there…i have soo much skunk2 shit on my car and i beat the shit out of it as a daily in the el paso heat and shitty roads…never a problem and i dont think i will…if i do, they have a year warranty
I dont think you should pay any attention to this, sounds like a big misstatement. I’m guessing whatever caused this situation he experienced was related to something else. I can’t think of a situation where -2 deg of camber would decrease the cars handling performance, and definitely not induce a loss of control.
Increasing your negative camber should IMPROVE handling. Under harsh cornering your sidewall flexes and begins to roll over. When it rolls over you decrease your contact patch and thus decrease grip. Increasing negative camber fights this effect. It puts an angle in the suspension such that it when your tire experiences roll over its actually rolling over ONTO your contact patch instead of off of it. Generally if you’re looking for increased performance you will increase negative camber. Of course as with everything there are diminishing returns and a point at which you’ve gone too far. But 2 deg is not that point. I have nearly -4 deg of camber in front and the car handles great, tire wear is very even, and I don’t seem to be rolling over past the markers on the tire. I’m not sure what my ideal setting should be, but I know -2 deg wouldn’t be enough for me. Of course, this is a track car, there’s no need for that much negative camber on a street car. On a street car negative camber will improve handling but you hit diminishing returns much faster than a track prepped car. On a street car, depending on the suspension and how much it got driven, I’d probably run between -2.5 and -1.75 deg.
sorry but lets agree to disagree, I will never have any skunk2 part on my car plain and simple. I heard waaay tooo many horror stories/premature failures about skunk2 products in the past and the present and it was all due to poor quality control. Sorry but I gotta pass on their stuff (only exception is their shift knob, you can’t screw that up lol). Only time will tell and let’s see how those parts/warranty hold up after one year.
[QUOTE=408DB2;2283197]I see, i guess ill pass on the camber kit. Ill def save me some cash.
As far as the wheels, once lowered and aligned all tires should NOT look like this /\ and instead look like this || sorry for the noob question.[/QUOTE]
Depending on how low you are, you may still have some /\ (negative camber) because the stock adjustments can go only so far even after alignment. But the main concern is to have you toe set closest to zero, and you should be fine in regards to tire wear.
i did not say -2 caused loss of control, i have it set at -2 now and it handles awesome i said. but when slammed with no camber kit at all it was like -7 and caused the loss of control quite frequently…so maybe read it again before u say im wrong…
as for the skunk2 shit, they do extensive r&d on their parts thats why soo many people try to copy their shit…theres just a few people out there that are skunk2 haters and it ruins their name…if u havent tried it u cant knock it…as for the link u posted his story is threw a 3rd party vendor who probably also sold him fake shit…i stand by skunk2 firmly and will always give them a thumbs up as i’ve taken many many cheaper parts off and replaced with skunk2 and its huge improvement[/QUOTE]
Lets agree to disagree, plain and simple. You’re entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to mine. I’m sorry but no matter what you say, it will not convince me nor the countless others who dislike skunk2. Maybe you should ask yourself on why so many people hate/knock on skunk2 rather than love it; it’s sometimes better to see the other side to fully grasp what’s really going on… ignorance is bliss.
Thread has been cleaned up to remove all the talk about Skunk2. This thread is about needing or not needing a camber kit. Not about the negative comments or love affair with Skunk2 products.
I would say get them youll save more on tire life. And if you go get aligned itll save you the trouble for them telling you you need adjustables. Do it all together once…
482DB2- I’d say no camber kit. I’m moderately lowered with neuspeed race springs and Koni yellows. I asked the same question on this forum couple of years ago and I went for the no camber needed answers. Just adjust the “toe”. That was in 2005 and went through one set of tires wearing very evenly. I’m on my second set of tires and its still wearing evenly all with no camber kit. Hope this helps
Thanks, I’m def goin to pass on the camber kits. After reading many forums regarding this topic I have come to the conclusion that camber kits are not needed.
Yeah, but you also implied that anything more than -2 contributes to loss of control in hard cornering…How it was worded I pretty much gathered the same thing as Colin… no need to get all defensive.
