lowered my car but my tires are getting f u c k e d so i need camber kit.
cant make up my mind on which one to get tho. the ingalls front camber kit that looks like this
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g213/vivaaron/LOKAKECH2ND/camber%20kit/CAMK2001-4PRD-L2.jpg
or this kind
http://images.marketplaceadvisor.channeladvisor.com/hi/78/78360/CAMBER-RED.jpg
the car is very low and I just want to make sure i get the right ones that will do the job.
both will provide you with camber adjustments. I have heard good and bad reviews of the ingalls, but I have no problem with them. If you do decide to get the ingalls, I can get you a set for the Front for 120 shipped.
still deciding on which ones to go with…i have new tires,it would be a waist to have them go bad because of the camber being negative.
I just install my Ingalls yesterday and had my alignment done today. So far I am liking them but its only been a day. Easy to install though.
Camber kit isn’t going to save your tires if your toe specs are off.
Yeah that is also true.
Hows tht kit so far?
So you lowered your car? Did you go get it aligned or have you been driving it around without doing that?
the complete arm is better and as always way more expensive. the complete arm has new bushings, new paint, new grease, and is adjustable. if you have the money, do it.
the separately pieced front alignments are the way to go, if money is tight. way cheaper and does the same job…just not new bushings in the upper control arm, and not as easily adjustable.
both will work, just depends on how much money you are wanting to spend. and of course, how “cool” you want your setup to be. big red fancy upper control arms=sexy.:inlove:
[QUOTE=ryanesry12;2167949]the complete arm is better and as always way more expensive. the complete arm has new bushings, new paint, new grease, and is adjustable. if you have the money, do it.
the separately pieced front alignments are the way to go, if money is tight. way cheaper and does the same job…just not new bushings in the upper control arm, and not as easily adjustable.
both will work, just depends on how much money you are wanting to spend. and of course, how “cool” you want your setup to be. big red fancy upper control arms=sexy.:inlove:[/QUOTE]
As Spikey Mike said, contrary to poular belief, toe has a much larger effect on tire wear than camber does. Make sure those are to spec first, then if necessary adjust your camber.
It may have a much larger effect, HOWEVER contrary to popular belief it doesn’t make camber wear irrelevamt. Yes if your toe is out it can affect tire wear. CAMBER STILL WEARS TIRES. I get tired of people that swear up and down camber has nothing to do with it. When your tires sit at an angle like /, they are going to wear. They sit like /\ because of camber, not toe. IMO a camber kit is still needed to correct the advanced tire wear by lowering a car.
As far as ingall’s goes, I didn’t like it.
[QUOTE=DAtIntegra35;2169564]It may have a much larger effect, HOWEVER contrary to popular belief it doesn’t make camber wear irrelevamt. Yes if your toe is out it can affect tire wear. CAMBER STILL WEARS TIRES. I get tired of people that swear up and down camber has nothing to do with it. When your tires sit at an angle like /, they are going to wear. They sit like /\ because of camber, not toe. IMO a camber kit is still needed to correct the advanced tire wear by lowering a car.
As far as ingall’s goes, I didn’t like it.[/QUOTE]
It really depends on how much the car is lowered though. A little camber can be a good thing and will not wear tires significantly. However a little camber and a lot of toe will.
No ones saying camber won’t wear tires. It just worth mentioning that toe is sometimes overlooked when it comes to uneven tire wear.
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No ones saying camber won’t wear tires. It just worth mentioning that toe is sometimes overlooked when it comes to uneven tire wear.[/QUOTE]
see, I disagree. Anytime somebody that “knows about suspension” steps into a thread about camber kits its either “you don’t need one” or “check your toe.” I have never seen somebody say “a camber kit will fix your tire wear problem.”
OK, I’ll say it “a adjustable camber kit will correct a tire wear problem”. It just might not be that extreme camber is the only reason why your tires are wearing out prematurely.
Somebody who “knows about suspensions” will obviously correct me if I am wrong but it is my experience that when you lower your car with a set of lowering springs or adj. coilovers, you do at least two bad things to your suspension settings, you induce too much negative camber and you change your toe settings. Both will cause advanced tire wear issues.
You must get a wheel alignment after lowering your car and reset the toe specs back to stock and cure that problem but without some way of returning the camber back to a near stock setting you will continue to see additional tire wear attributed to your camber setting. An adjustable camber kit gives you the ability to adjust your camber once you have lowered your car to a setting you prefer realizing that any setting much beyond the stock camber setting may give you reduced tire life. So obviously you should do an alignment after you have lowered the car and set the camber where you want it to be because any further adjustment of the camber after the alignment will continue to change the toe setting each time you change the camber.
“Experts” can agree or disagree with me as I suspect some may, but years of experience have taught me this much so far. Always still learning though.
[QUOTE=bunracer;2170051]OK, I’ll say it “a adjustable camber kit will correct a tire wear problem”. It just might not be that extreme camber is the only reason why your tires are wearing out prematurely.
Somebody who “knows about suspensions” will obviously correct me if I am wrong but it is my experience that when you lower your car with a set of lowering springs or adj. coilovers, you do at least two bad things to your suspension settings, you induce too much negative camber and you change your toe settings. Both will cause advanced tire wear issues.
You must get a wheel alignment after lowering your car and reset the toe specs back to stock and cure that problem but without some way of returning the camber back to a near stock setting you will continue to see additional tire wear attributed to your camber setting. An adjustable camber kit gives you the ability to adjust your camber once you have lowered your car to a setting you prefer realizing that any setting much beyond the stock camber setting may give you reduced tire life. So obviously you should do an alignment after you have lowered the car and set the camber where you want it to be because any further adjustment of the camber after the alignment will continue to change the toe setting each time you change the camber.
“Experts” can agree or disagree with me as I suspect some may, but years of experience have taught me this much so far. Always still learning though.[/QUOTE]
Thank you! That is all I was trying to say.
ok… back to the topic…hows are your Ingalls holding up? and OP, what was your final decision?
DAtIntegra35 why didn’t you like the Ingalls?
I have my toe specs as close to zero as possible, but my tires are still getting chewed up on the inside edge. I really need a camber kit but can’t decide what to get. another type I have seen, and I was wondering if they are any good is this http://www.spcalignment.com/PROD_DIR/SPC_PROD_SEARCH_DYN.cfm?cmd=Cam&cmd2=67330(8)&cmd3=
Any feedback would be appreciated…
i have both ajustable conrol arms and ingalls. go with the upper control arms because the ingalls will fuck up your alignment.
No, actually they won’t. Mine held for 15k miles perfectly fine, and everything was within spec and my tires lasted 15k miles with plenty of tread left when I sold them. No abnormal wear as well.
im also at the point were i need to invest in a camber kit. Has anyone used the Blox front camber kit??? ive tried looking for reviews on them but found nothing. im debating on wether there worth the $140 or if the ebay ones for $50 will work just as well.
