hey guys, recently i found an excellent deal on 00 itr cams and valvetrain. now this past weekend i was home ( thanksgiving w/ the fam of course! ) so i decided to slap those cams in. I haven’t done a cam install before so obvoiusly i didn’t touch the valvetrain ( b/c you either have to have the snapon tool or remove the head, both of which are out of the question right now )
anyway, im curiuos to others opinions as to whether i should continue along the R ways and put the valvetrain in ( when i have a lot more time and a new headgasket ) or if i should sell everything and just get some skunk2 cams. I know the skunk2 make more power, but i also know im going to want to be able to rev higher, but is more power really lurking above 8 grand?
is there anyone who had r cams and then swappped em out for junks? im interested in the results… anyway, lemme know what you guys think–
ps- the car definately pulls stronger, especially above 6 grand, yeah for high end! it seems 60-80, and 80-100 are MUUUUUUUUCHHHHHH faster to get through. bibi
Originally posted by RedStarGsr im curiuos to others opinions as to whether i should continue along the R ways and put the valvetrain in… … I know the skunk2 make more power, but i also know im going to want to be able to rev higher, but is more power really lurking above 8 grand?
Your not going to gain power from the valvetrain unless your intending to change the intake valves out to ITR… IMO stock gsr valve springs can handle at least up to 8400rpm which should be plenty for your ITR cams. Oh also, there is a great deal of power above 8000rpm, but not with ITR cams… they start droping off around 8300rpm or so… go for the Skunk2’s man
You would benefit more from the Itr cams! Itr cams make more power then skunks in the usable rpm range. Sure the skunk’s are going to have a higher peak hp, but those numbers can lie! You want to have power more power between 4 and 8k rpms, I have seen dyno sheets where the itr made more horsepower through the entire rev range, except over 8400 rpms; the dyno went up to about 9500rpms and that’s when the aftermarket cam took over, but that is not as streetable as itr cams.
i guess it all depends on what you’re building for… i’ve seen skunk2, jun3’s, todaB’s on many dyno runs and for sure they pull more HP than ITR cams over 5000… im usually above that range if I’m racing or wanting to feel power…
Originally posted by C-dogg’slsvtec You would benefit more from the Itr cams! Itr cams make more power then skunks in the usable rpm range. Sure the skunk’s are going to have a higher peak hp, but those numbers can lie! You want to have power more power between 4 and 8k rpms, I have seen dyno sheets where the itr made more horsepower through the entire rev range, except over 8400 rpms; the dyno went up to about 9500rpms and that’s when the aftermarket cam took over, but that is not as streetable as itr cams.
skunk2 cams make more power than itr cams… ctr cams and itr cams are great for ls/vtecs but for a vtec motor that can rev higher i’d go for skunk2 stage 1 cams… i had skunk2 stage 2 on my b16 and there ok i dynoed at 162whp but something wz wrong wit the motor…stage 2 cams are more for the tuners like dan…
I’ve had experience with both the CTR and Skunk2 Stage 1 Cams. Initially I ran the Type Rs with Type R valvetrain in my LSVTEC and had plenty of power from idle all the way up to 7600rpms where my setup peaked on the dyno. Then I switched to the Stage 1s and were much happier with the results. Gained at least 10+hp at the peak which was now around 8300rpms. I have compared both dyno charts and there is no drop in horsepower or torque in the lower end of the powerband like what most say here. Actually gained 3-7+hp throughout the curve. Don’t get me wrong, the Type R cams are for great daily driving and will give you the OE reliablility but if you want a bit more umph the Stage 1s are a great alternative. Never had a problem with them. Just to note also, that this is why I chose the Stage 1s over the Stage 2s because the 1s will still give you the power down low where you want it for everyday driving and with a higher peak number that what the Type Rs will produce. Not as high as the Stage2s but overall more area under the curve. But that’s the tradeoff with high lift cams such as the Skunk Stage 2s, JUN 3s and Spec Cs. HTHs. Good luck.
thanks for the input guys… I was expecting everyone to tel lme to ditch these and go for skunk2. I just dont have the funds right now, and with me leaving for japan in 10 days…well I will be behind for a while. The reason i ask, is because i think i could get a good deal on sellin these cams and valvetrain for a set of used skunk2. the skunk2s would make more power, but i wouldn’t have the valvetrain to use it all, and that wouldn’t come for a while. Sometime in the winter or spring I will pull the head and put the valvesprings on ( unless someone knows how to do it w/out spending $140 on a snapon tool or pulling the head ) and then save up for a hondata. My bro has the tunable one ( so he can tune my hondata ) but i dont know if i have enough done to even see power from the hondata…who knows.
anyway, thanks for your insight, and anyone lemme know if they see some skunks goin …peece.