car will not start.

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to spikeymike… you must not have read the post, the problem is in my post, i really don’t know what to call the title because i have no clue what the problem is… again i searched, no one else here that i have found has the same problem as i. i’ve looked up your guys search, been to the teg tips, and nothing. so excuse me, for not giving it a proper name / title for the thread. if you now of a better title for the thread, then by all means post it and i will repost again. so please, if it’s cool with you, leave this thread open so i can at least get an answer before you start jumping all over my ass, i was pointed to the direction of this site from a friend at clubrsx, and he said this site was good for answers and such.

okay heres the deal, i just bought a 93 integra special (ls) with the b18a engine in it. i’m trying to get the smitch started but it will not start. when i first got the car my roommate said he had stopped driving it because he got a new car (a mazdaspeed 3) so he sold me his car for 800 and said the only problem with it is that the master cylinder needed to be changed because it was fucked up… which is fine and dandy with me because it’s not that hard to change out. well upon getting the car the car wouldn’t turn on, the battery was dead. So we came back the next day and jumped it, nothing, the dash and everything else turned on, the car just wouldn’t start it just gavce a stutter. so we push started it, it felt like it wanted to start, but again nothing. so we went back to the house to get our toolkit (yea we left it like idiots.) so after i wanna say about half an hour, we come back to the car try jumping it again and now nothing will light up, we switch the battery and still nothing. so we came to the conclusion that it had to be the battery cable, so we ended up switching it out, putting the battery back on and still nothing… i’ve looked at the spark plugs as well and they are fine.

so what the hell could it be? i mean if it was the starter / alternator it would sitll push start? right? or is there something el se that could be wrong with the car? ANY HELP WOULD BE AWESOME.

and yes i’ve searched, maybe not as deep as some of you guys on here… but i’ve looked and i’m still looking.

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the post itself was fine…it was the TITLE of the post that was against forum rules. If everyone TITLED their thread 'help me", the search function would be meaningless.

good luck with your car.

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Follow the rules as STATED IN THE FORUM FAQ and I won’t jump over your ass.

If you would have read the rules you would have known that thread titles should be a description of what the problem is, and not what you have wrote (hello all i need help).

Trying reading the link I posted if you don’t want your threads being closed.

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i’m doin it now…

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so you’re not getting any power at all right now?

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Might want to check all the fuse and relays. Also make sure there isnt any melted points on contacts to cable/battery. Once you get power back we’ll continue on.

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i’ve tried all that. even bought new battery cables. from what i can see everything is fine. the only thing that seemed a bit wierd to me was the fact it had some oil residue inside the intake (it’s an aftermarket intake) i’m thinking he fucked up the engine and is not telling me. (i bought it from my roommate, whom said the only thing wrong with it was that the master cylinder was bad. which was fine, i found the walkthrough on how to change it either on here or team integra.) but after this i don’t think i want it… actually i know i don’t want it.

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Oil residue in the intake or Throttle body is normal after many years of not cleaning i suppose. You know the tube that goes to the intake to the valve cover? Thats where the residue comes about since intake is sucking air from outside and also from the valve cover. This is to vent out exhaust fume and reuse it and what not. There is an article about it thats why its not good to have tiny air breathers on it. I just dont know how to explain it :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

But yea Your problem may be something else worth looking or perhaps you are overlooking and got mad and say forget it hehe.

If its the starter it would chatter or wont crank over which means you wont hear your car try to start.

If its the alternator chances are your car wont crank or start either if battery is to low or dead.

Let me say it like this, an alternator in working order can be run without a battery only after the car is started with the battery and at IDLE. If your alternator is bad and you put a used/new battery and try to crank it wont go. I know I burnt mines before LoL

But all I can think of is Relays to wirings other then that get your starter and alternator tested ok good luck man…

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I would loosen the line to the fuel rail and see if you have fuel pressure when you key it on. If that is fine you are going to want to see if there is spark. Sorry i cant help more but if you dont have one or the other (even both) it will give me a better idea on what it could be. Sorry that i didnt answer as best as you wanted but i just dont want to throw stones at your car i want to help

Jay

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if the car will not crank… try starter connections, grounds, battery installed correctly…

check all your fuses especially main ecu …

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Been said and done why are we repeating steps.

Anyway How is the car coming along?

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it’s pissing me off… i’ve checked both battery cables, checked all the connections inside the engine bay and inside the car (maybe a loose wire somewhere) nothing, and it’s not just me who’s been looking for it, i’ve had 3 other people with me looking for things that might be wrong with it as well and no one can come up with everything.

things i’ve done thus far:
changed out the positive and negative battery cable.
checked the spark plugs (they are good still)
roommate says the dist. cap is still good, as well as the starter and alternator.

roommate says he’s going to go and look at the car on sunday (he works today until 7-8ish, and i go to work at 10 tonight. i mean i would keep the car if i didn’t need something up and running at the moment. but i need a car. i was planning on doing a swap with it in late september, but that’s 2 far away to have a paperweight in the front lawn.

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Wait wait wait, walk us through what happens.

You walk out to your car, get in, turn the key… And then what? Nothing? Accessories turn on? Can you hear a click? How bout the starter spinning? Is the engine turning over?

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okay… heres how everything happened…

i get the key from my roommate after we exchange money and such, and head to the car with some friends.

my roommate says the car may need a jump (he tried starting it two days prior and said it wouldn’t start)

we get to the car and try to start it, nothing. the dash will not light up or anything, no noise from under the hood.

we pop the hood on my friends car and the integra. hook up the battery cables and let it sit for about 5 minutes.

we go to start the car, the dash lights up, everything works now. go to start it and sounds like the shit wants to start but can’t. so we let it sit again because we figured it was dead. we try it again, still nothing. So one of my friend suggest to push start it (pop the clutch) we get it going (it’s on a hill anyway) pop the clutch, it feels like it wants to start but doesn’t, try it again, does the same thing.

we park the car under a tree, and head back to my house to get some tools (mind you we didn’t grab any the first time because roommates says it worked, just needed a jump)

went back to the car not even 30-40 minutes later and it did the same thing. won’t start or anything. even with jumping it, it will not start. so we figured it was the battery. we switched the battery with another one. nothing. went and called a friend and he said it was the battery cable. we ended up waiting until the next day to try and fix anything because it would have gotten dark by the time we got the part and such.

so the next day i go get the battery cables and the master cylinder. go change out the battery cables, we the battery in… nothing. so now we are like wtf? we check all the wires, check the spark plugs, check to see if anything abnormal is leaking, and still nothing. a friend of mines did point out that on the inside hood of the car it looks like muddy water splashed on the inside (and now we are thinking that the engine is blown and the last bit of starting we did, finally killed it, hence why i asked if it was normal for the intake to have oil residue in it)

and thats it. i’ve talked to alot of people from different sites and from around my area and no one can tell me anything. they have no clue what is wrong with it. i bought the car for 800 because my roommate said the car was running, and still running strong, and now i feel if i have to dump money into it just to get it working i might as well get my money back.

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is it even cranking over?

If not check the starter power, gground and the little clip next to the power (that seems to come off once in awhile)

If it is cranking check for spark, if it is not getting spark it could be either the ignitor (common problem) or the coil.

if it is getting spark and still not starting check for fuel pressure at the rail, if it is not getting fp at the rail check the MFR

if the mfr, fuel pump, anf fuel filter are good it still may be the distributor, on most cars the fuel injectors get their pulse off the distributor and if the distributor shaft has play or the lenses inside are bad it will not get fuel, also once that shaft gets a hair of play the distributor loses all signal.

if it still wont start check the wire harness that goes from the battery to the fuse box to the fuel rail, mine has a problem where it keeps shorting out at that harness for some reason. I messed with it for 2 weeks to just wigggle that wire and the car to start.

http://www.g2ic.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36941

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we’ve looked at everything. we disconnected and reconnected anything dealing with the battery. there’s 3 of us under the hood and we are all looking over what the other person looked at to see if we missed anything… and still, nothing. i’m just gonna say fuck it, and get my money back.

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So what it sounds like to me, is that the only time you got any electrical was when you hooked it up to your Bud’s car? Do you have an ohmmeter/voltometer?

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yeppers. and it was the last time it started or even tried to start / turn over.

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Ok well then it’s not a blown engine LoL it’s probably a wiring problem. Try the stuff Da90ls recommended.

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eh i’ve had enough of it… i’m just gonna get my money back.