car wont start unless pop started, i replaced the starter

Hey guys just started having this problem this past week. At first the car started fine. Then about a week ago it would take a few extra clicks to get the car started. A couple of days ago the car would take 20-30 clicks and then start. After that it would start sometimes right away and then sometimes it would take more than a couple clicks. Now my car wont start at all except when you pop start it. I just replaced the starter and it does the same thing just clicks when i try to start it. I can hear the main fuel relay click after the check engine light goes off. The guy i got the car from said he replaced the main fuel relay less than a year ago. Could this be a Clutch interlock switch problem or something else.

Cliff notes, car started fine, then slowly would not start on first click, now just clicks when trying to be started. i replaced the starter and still just clicks.

Have you checked battery voltage? I’m betting its either a dying battery, or a bad ground.

How’s the ground on the negative battery cable?

Whats the battery voltage supposed to be at? The ground on the negavtive battery cable looks good.
Think i should try another battery?

Battery voltage should be around 13volts. 12-14v is good. Its easy enough to swap out the battery, so I would try that (if the battery isn’t testing good as far as the voltage). But with how intermittent the problem is sounding, leads me to believe its a ground issue. Have you recently installed anything electronic that could be drawing power and draining the battery?

I put in a sub and amp a couple months ago. that could have drained the battery slowly. Im going to try swapping out batteries and even try a different starter and main fuel relay. I have another DA so i am just going to keep swapping parts till i find the culprit. Anyone know where the starter relay is located. Im also going to try taking my system completely out.

Sweet… its good that you have a “parts” car so to speak. But try just one thing at a time… change 5 things at once and it cures your problem, but you don’t know which of those 5 things was the problem heh. I’d try battery first and foremost.

so i swapped out batteries today. no luck still just clicks.
Then i swapped out the new starter i just bought for the one in my parts car, still just clicks.
then i swapped the main fuel relay and still just clicks.
Im pretty sure its not a ground issue because the car still starts and runs fine when pop started and it seems to be getting power to everything.
Im going to try and swap the starter relays tomorrow and if that doesnt work see if its the clutch interlock switch.

though it’s obvious by now, it’s going to be either the starter relay or CIS. or ignition switch, seeing as how there’s really nothing else besides wiring left in the circuit.
a dying battery would more likely cause a slow crank
you should really be using a voltmeter to test before swapping parts out. it’ll make life easier, and give you a much better understanding on what’s going on with a circuit. learn how to use it. such an important tool. beauty of electricity is that it speaks a universal language; whether it be cars, computers or phones

thanks for all the replies guys, now if i could just find my voltmeter id be in business!

spliced the CIS wires together and still just clicks. Going to swap starter relays, hopefully thats the fix.

swapped out starter relays and still just clicks. Going to replace the ignition switch and see if that fixes it.

Stupid alarm fried out and was preventing the signal from ignition switch to the starter. Rewired it and all good. thanks for the replies guys
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how did you figure it out? Did you look at a wiring diagram or something?

Yeah i took my car to a buddies house. He had the wiring diagram and a power probe to test all the wires. We traced back that the ignition wasn’t sending a signal to the starter relay to start the starter. Once we figured out which wire wasnt sending it, we unhooked the alarm and rewired the wires that were spliced into the alarm back together. After we did that it started right up and hasn’t had any problems since.

You know I’ve got a stock alarm in mine which doesn’t work anymore…I recently replaced the starter relay and thought I fixed my problem, but occasionally still happens…could my stupid OEM alarm be the cause also? I’m not good with electrical stuff…how can I see if mine has the same issue?