Im having clearance issue with front stock uca’s they are resting on shock towers do the EF ucas have better clearance or the sk2 camber kit?
Are you using DA specific kits? How low are you? I dont think there is a difference between the EF and DA kit
I am using stock upper control arms for DA, omnipower coilovers, buddy club extended lower balljoints. Car is slammed
The problem is not the a-arms or camber kit…
The problem is you’re slammed.
You’re reducing the suspension travel drastically, and expecting no adverse effects.
This is a common problem with slammed cars. Hence why many people cut-out and bbox-in the area around the shock tower for a-arm clearance.
Either raise the car or mod the shock towers.
They’d be cut like that, then boxed in with adequate sheet metal so the chassis doesn’t loose rigidity.
Slamming a car was never ‘functional’. As with anything, if you’re fully committing to being slammed, do-work.
i was looking at cutting out for clearance but i noticed that its just not the balljoint part resting on shock tower, the A arm by the 2 mounting bolts are hitting the top aswell
Again, raise the car.
Looking at the side-profile of a stock UCA versus a Skunk2, they’ll be just about the same. The main difference between nicer aftermarket units and eBay ones is the ‘flush mount’ balljoint. The new S2 is very flat, allowing for more clearance on the top of the balljoint. But if you’re using OEM, they should be very similar. The older, cheap eBay kits have bolts sticking out of the top, which is typically what causes contact.
There is only SO much room under your fenders between your suspension/wheels/frame etc. As I said, you’re bound to have issues when riding low.
Alright thanks for the input
Something seems fishy, that ride height really isn’t that low. Do you have a front camber kit? What is your camber set to? Pictures of the UCA contact?
Agreed, he really isn’t THAT low.
And if contact is on the inside part of the arm (ie, where mounting bolts are) that is kind of odd… most people have contact on the balljoint end, not the inside.
Did you pre-load the A Arms correctly? If they are loose then will flop all over the place. Curious about this as well, because you’re low but you aren’t ridiculously low.
Are you positive that the arm hitting the wheel well is your issue?
I’ve only experienced that once ever on an ef and that thing was balls on the ground with blown out struts.
Super clean teg tho regardless.
^ It doesn’t take too much to hit the inner strut towers if you’re moderately low and have your camber corrected. Correcting the camber makes the UCA longer and thus more chance of contacting the inner strut tower.
I meant pics of the suspension…
To preload the suspension, when you have the car on jackstands and are assembling the suspension, place a jack under the LCA and jack up the suspension until the car lifts just barely off of the jack stands. This is equivalent to the car being on the ground. From that point you can tighten up any bolts so that there’s no additional stress on the bushings. Depending on what type of bushings you have this may or may not be important, and it certainly has nothing to do with any sort of rubbing like you’re talking about. If they are loose then things could be moving around, but preload should have nothing to do with this.
[QUOTE=Colin;2304840]I meant pics of the suspension…
To preload the suspension, when you have the car on jackstands and are assembling the suspension, place a jack under the LCA and jack up the suspension until the car lifts just barely off of the jack stands. This is equivalent to the car being on the ground. From that point you can tighten up any bolts so that there’s no additional stress on the bushings. Depending on what type of bushings you have this may or may not be important, and it certainly has nothing to do with any sort of rubbing like you’re talking about. If they are loose then things could be moving around, but preload should have nothing to do with this.[/QUOTE]
It was just a thought…I was wondering if he replaced the upper arms and didn’t tighten the bolts or something like that. If the distance of the shocks/springs were too short to hold up the car and there was zero preload (loose) I could picture the arms traveling all the way up, bottoming out at the shock tower and staying that way.
I think we’re confusing terminology with “pre-load”. Most of us will NOT have any pre-load on our suspension due to being lowered. What I thought you were talking about was tightening the mounting bolts for the UCA to anchors. If you tighten those bolts up with the suspension at full droop you will preload the bushing with tension. It’s natural position will be full droop and what you would prefer is for the bushing’s natural position to be that of your static ride height, i.e. there is no rotational tension on the bushing when the car is resting on the ground.
The issue is that the UCA is going that high in the first place, not that it’s getting stuck there (if I’m interpreting this correctly). The end of the UCA where the ball joint is located often contacts the inner fender, so that’s not really a surprise - although he really isn’t very low. The thing that seems fishy is the other parts of the UCA which he says is making contact - that just doesn’t make sense. In my head I don’t see how it’s even physically possible. Looking at the design of the UCA and anchor mounts (see pic below) I’m not sure how the arm itself could swing up and hit the body except at the end of the arm. The part that is close to the anchor looks far enough down from the mounting point of the anchor that I’m not sure how it could swing up and hit anything.
Ok so i will put car on jack stands and compress suspension till car lifts, then tighten the A arm anchor bolts that go thru those bushings correct? I will take pics and show you where spots the arm is hitting
Yes, thats the proper method to make sure there’s no strain on the bushing. But as I stated, I can’t envision how that has anything to do with the problem you’re having. Pics of the contact points would be perfect.
I will get pics in an hour or so