Clearing 92-93 tails

Its damn cold here in Toronto, Canada.
I have many parts I purchased wanting to finish my car, but this is definitely not the season to be working on a car… SO i have decided to work on little fine details, and useless mods.

Clearing my tails.

I first started with the superclean on the 90-91 tails. Sure they look great… until comparing them to G2IC member waramp’s modified clear after-market tails.

I even tinted my supercleaned 90-91 tails to give them a dark cherry red look but still didn’t give me what I wanted. I didn’t like the look of the faded white look the tail was giving me… but wanted them to look “clear”. After searching, I found info on modified 92-93 tails. They looked identical to waramp’s tails so I decided to get right to it.

So I started with a set of damaged 90-91 tails using a heat gun I purchased at crappy tire for $20 to practice and test my heat gun.

Sure, this thing worked great… but took a bit of time.
I have modified my 98 RAV4 tails on 2 separate occasions using the oven method, so you can say I have considerable experience in terms of baking the lights… but I wanted to make use of my new toy I just bought.

So after quite some time, I finally got this apart. My first thing I got a hold of was the white strip with the pink lines. This thing was so sensitive to anything touching it, I could just rub the pink off with my fingers. So I kept rubbing them with a cloth until they turned white. Some of the white I noticed were gray. I thought I wasn’t rubbing enough so I continued until it turned black. that’s when I noticed with the superclean method people vent about when their lines turn black… they did too much to it. I thought it was grey because I didn’t get the pink enough, but it was the opposite…

I think the pink lines were probably a darker RED originally… so this is what happens to the lines…
Red → Pink → white → gray → black → clear.

I used a 2000 grit sandpaper to get the rest of the white to appear black.
Then I thought… hmmm… maybe I can dismantle my other set of 90-91 damaged tails (ya, I have a few of them laying around…), do this, and add the plastic piece to my 92-93 tails. I like the look of the 92-93 tails more than the 90-91. I don’t really like the look of the white part to look strong as I have a black car… so I think this would blend in with the car more.

I thought nobody did the black lines thing, but turns out Neil the founder has done this already… but to his original 90-91 tails.

I must say, I was a little disappointed with the outcome… maybe better pics - perhaps in the daylight - will look nicer.

If interested I have tons of pics, and probably a good writeup with pics of taking the tails apart.
Once I fit them on my car, I plan to take pics and upload.

I think I like them, but if I had a choice to do this again, I probably couldn’t be bothered.

I still haven’t sealed the lights together yet since I wanted to get an idea of how they’d look on my car first.

Final product:

Top to bottom: black stripe 93, supercleaned 90-91, 90-91 tails with a very light coat of tint spray.

Supercleaned 90-91, and black stripe 92-93 tails together.

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The how-to

First off, let me mention this - as mentioned everywhere the key to this is patience… whether you’re using the heatgun or oven method, keep in mind the problem is loosening the glue. Over time the glue will easily harden from room temperature and you will need to melt over and over until you can pry this apart. It’s probably a good idea to clean the tails as much as possible. Dirt is probably trapped in many parts of the light, so it’d be a good idea just to keep your work area free of sand/dirt.
Oven or heat gun method, you WILL need to remove the rubber and grill piece. Also: if you’re proceeding by the oven method, I strongly suggest you to use a baking sheet, dampen a towel and place it on the baking sheet where the light should rest facing down. This will avoid warpage. Keep in mind, by attempting this mod, you can seriously damage the lights to the point where they cannot be repaired. Please attempt this modification at your own risk.

So here’s what I had, and here are some tools I used to the left. Use a thin/strong piece of metal. I used some knives for envelopes.

This is one of the pieces that need to be removed. This one came off no problem. If you had a difficult time removing this, apply some heat - if you don’t have a heat gun, a blow dryer will probably work with lots of patience.

Can’t forget the vent. There’s 3 screws that need to be removed.

The rubber piece on the lower inside part of the light -where it meets the center of the bumper filler. I cut my finger while prying the lights apart. The lens snapped in my hand and cut pretty much every finger. The index finger was cut pretty badly. Hope you don’t make the same mistake!

I marked it out. That’s where the silicone is concentrated. That’s what you gotta heat up.

So after it came apart, here’s what the inside of a 90-91 tail looks like.
I supercleaned this light. The white would show up as red or pink if superclean was not applied. I’ve supercleaned a total of 6 taillights and always had a really tough time with the edges and corners. As they say, this is probably due to the corners and edges lacking exposure to sunlight as opposed to the rest of the surface.

I was just trying to get the white off as much as possible, and this is what happened… the white went black, then clear.
I thought to myself… hey, I kinda like the black line.

This is where my idea of inserting the plastic piece in my 92-93 tails came in.

I used 2000 Grit sandpaper (1500 works too, but won’t look as smooth as the 2000) and carefully and lightly wet sanded until I got rid of all the red/white. The edges and corners are VERY tough… if the edges seem to be taking a while, its not just you. It took me much longer. When I was doing this on my practice set, the lines were damaged - they had knicks, and the stripes were ruined. If your lines have surface damage, this modification will not be 100% successful, so when taking the lights apart be VERY careful not to damage the plastic piece with the lines. I forced the practice set apart cracking the lens and damaged the plastic piece on my practice set.

So after some time and patience, this is what your plastic piece can look like. This can take 5-10 minutes - depending on how detailed you want the black stripe to look. I also tried to rub superclean on the stripe directly with a cloth. It removed a lot of the red/pink but struggled with the white to black. I strongly suggest you use 2000 grit wet/dry sandpaper and wet sand this down.

Final product:

I have more pics. If you need assistance I can try to help you out, but please… do a search first. By assistance, I don’t mean I will do it for you.

Now I need to see how these look on my car.
I’m contemplating on the upper stripe as:
black stripe, chrome look, or clear look…

Its hard to tell by my photos, but the stripe is not Grey like it appears in the photos. They are black, but once they go inside the lens, they appear gray.

Will post pics… but its hard to get a nice picture when I get home from work after 6 - sun is almost down.

By the way, people who ask for pics of this mod - it is extremely difficult to take pictures for this process since your attention must be on the lights. Trying to take pictures of this while heating and prying the lens apart is difficult, but I did the best I could. If you would like any advice, I will gladly help out.

pics on car

The passenger side is a supercleaned 90-91 tail with 3 light coats of tint spray.
I’m probably going to end up tinting the 92-93 blackstripe tail with 1 or possibly 2 very light coats of tint spray.

Nice work, looks pretty good. :up: I still prefer supercleaned 90-91 :stuck_out_tongue:

Thanks BacardiBreezer.
I don’t know what it was… the supercleaned lights just weren’t cutting it for me…
I tinted the lights now. Will post pics tomorrow night.

do you by any chance seen how the aftermarket clear and red tails look like when the bottom is tinted deep red and top is clear, is that what you talking about the member waramps mod tails, if so where can i see a picture of it, thanks in advance


momoagui

just click search for waramp.
I’m sure his image will turn up somewhere. I don’t have any pics here, but at my home computer.

What I think waramp did was just spray the clear aftermarket taillights so they look stock, and he didn’t tint it.
I however tinted my lights now so maybe I have the look of what you’re looking for. I don’t have a pic right now because I’m still in the process of clearcoating it, then I’d have to polish it. Its a tedious process, but I believe it’ll pay off in the end.

hey would i beable to clear the whole taillgith like that? does the red come off? i want all clear tails and they dont make them or sell them anymore… id only be usin them for show purposes only…

No the Red is an actual part of the lens, however the amber is a plastic piece that comes apart after taking the lens apart.
If this was possible, I don’t think they’d sell aftermarket clear tails.

I have a set I bought on eGay but they came damaged. The lens was cracked by the vent on both sides. They’re on ebay here and there. Hopefully you won’t get the same problem if you purchase them.

that is nice. i was going to go the 90-91 route and now i think im doing the 92-93 way.

HELP PLEASE 90 tail lights

OK i am new at all this stuff but I got the lights out of the car. and i just want to open the lights so that i can clean the water and dirt out of the light So if i Heat up the blue spots in the picture with a heat gun the lights will come apart.I don t want to break my lights please reply back

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Not sure what you’re trying to do here so I’ll answer with what I think you’re trying to do.

First off, this thread is a mod for 92-93 tails. I like the look of 92-93 tails, but don’t want the amber. That’s where I took the lens apart.

Below on your post, it says 90 tails. If you have the pink/red tails, here’s a thread you should be reading. Its a way to make the pink white - commonly known as the superclean method. Just read carefully before moving on.

If you’re only doing this to clean the lights, I strongly recommend you to buy another set. Look in the classifieds, or even on ebay - they have nice white/red ones now. Prying these apart is a very long process, and unless you’re looking to mod them I don’t recommend it. If your tails are that dirty, think first… how did the dirt get in there to begin with? do you really want to do this? the dirt will likely get in there again. Just my few cents. Looking at the big picture, it sounds like you should get another set.

Ya well first off Id just like to say that this is A LOT of work. What I did was heat where the silicone is with a heat gun and use a putty knife to pry with. Once I finally got them apart which took a good hour +. I also suggest being VERY careful with the end of the light where the vent goes as I broke mine. When I took the clear piece with the pink lines I found it much much easier to use some sort of cleaner ie: super clean, lime away, or whatever. I also used a bristle pad to rub the lines of since a rag wouldnt get them clean. To put them back together follow the other steps.

I just thought Id throw my two cents maybe itll help.

If your just trying to get the water/dirt out then i suggest you get an air hose from a compressor with a air nozzle put it through a bulb hole. Then take a flat tip screwdriver and gently pry the pink lined clear piece away from the edge and spray away.

can you use this method to make the entire tail light clear? i have a white 90 GS and i think it would give a very clean look since i have all clear up front.
Thank you

I don’t know if anyone has tried that, or if it’s even legal. :shrug:

lol you guys. all u have to do is heat the oven to 350 for 4 mins then turn it off and throw one tailight in. all you need to do is leave it in there long enough where is hot to the point u can barely touch it. take it out with a glove and then pry the hard corner not the thin corner area with a flat head and once its open seperate it very slowly and it will come off. Took me 10-15 mins max.

I try this on an extra spare and it worked so i did both of mines 91.

then on to the 92s. I even did the front oem stock headlights and signal and corner. spray paint the housing surrounding with gunmetalic and now the headlights look meaner and better looking then the stupid clear crome look. i got pictures but probably wouldnt show much notice maybe under sunlight.

Ok…Firstly…

RiccyLSR: Post pics…Would love to see what you have done.

Secondly, G2TEG416: Nice write-up and nice job but I’m a little confused. If your first is 90-91 Supercleaned and your second is 92 blacklines than…wtf does T3ggyThang have done? Those look SWEET!

Any help is appreciated cuz I have a spare set and am looking to do something to my 90’s. i really want the crystal clear look for top stripe and maybe slight tint for bottom stripe.

I contracted t3ggythang and apparantly they are aftermarket clear on top with tint on bottom. i think im gonna try something chromed out.

^ Yes that is correct.
There is NO way to get rid of ANY RED on these G2 lights. That goes for all 90-93 lights. The red is the plastic itself. In terms of the amber on the 92-93s, the amber piece is actually an orange piece that can come off when pried open.

SO… if you plan on doing what T3ggythang did, you’ll need to buy an aftermarket (all clear) set, and spray them to your liking.

Well? i decided to open my lights up after the Superclean method wasn’t doing it for me. I mean, it definitely looks better than those red lines but I wanted clear or something close to it. Here’s what i ended up with. The one on the left is a 90 cleared tail. on the right supercleaned. And in the middle stock.[/IMG]