Hello everybody,
Just wondering if the del sol motor '94 V-Tech DOHC
would be a direct bolt in? I’m pretty sure it is…
I just wanted to make absolutly sure before I bought
the engine…
Yes, it is a direct bolt in.
BTW, its VTEC, not V-Tech…
Later,
BR
Re: Del Sol Motor
Originally posted by AllmansTEG
Hello everybody,
Just wondering if the del sol motor '94 V-Tech DOHC
would be a direct bolt in? I’m pretty sure it is…
I just wanted to make absolutly sure before I bought
the engine…
like jason said…it’ll bolt right in. however there are some small considerations you’ll need to make. Like the tranny. Go to the teg tips and read the Engine Swap Guide and you’ll see what i mean (oh, and i suggest you read the guide a dozen times or so until its commited to memory…IMO it has a lot of essential knowledge in it).
Re: Re: Del Sol Motor
Originally posted by 91IntegGS
like jason said…it’ll bolt right in. however there are some small considerations you’ll need to make. Like the tranny. Go to the teg tips and read the Engine Swap Guide and you’ll see what i mean (oh, and i suggest you read the guide a dozen times or so until its commited to memory…IMO it has a lot of essential knowledge in it).
Thanks for that quick info…
In the Teg tip guide, it really doesnt say much about
the transaxle though. I’m figuring that if the throw-out
bearing is ok in the b16 transaxle then it could be left alone.
As for the axkes themself… that’s straight forward to me.
V-TEC, V-TEC, V-TEC…
:bang:
Re: Re: Re: Del Sol Motor
Originally posted by AllmansTEG
[B]Thanks for that quick info…
In the Teg tip guide, it really doesnt say much about
the transaxle though. I’m figuring that if the throw-out
bearing is ok in the b16 transaxle then it could be left alone.
As for the axkes themself… that’s straight forward to me.
V-TEC, V-TEC, V-TEC…
:bang: [/B]
like i said…read it a bunch of times. you must have read it too fast cause you missed the vital info you need. Read it again, it answers the questions you were unsure of. The only comment i have is about the place racing converter, ignore that because it is no longer being made.
" This is an OBD-1 Engine from 93-95 Civic Del Sol DOHC VTEC. Performance is identical to that of the 90-91 JDM B16A. The difference being that this motor is OBD-1 instead of non-OBD. Also, because this motor is out of a Civic, there are some changes that need to be made. Mileage on this motor will vary, because it is a US Spec motor and we don’t have to pull our motors at 40,000 miles. Price on this motor will vary as well. Sometimes you can find a deal for less than $1500, other times you may pay up to $2000 for one of these motors. Many people prefer to go with the 90-91 JDM B16A not only because it is non-OBD, but because of the lower mileage and cheaper price. Not only that, but the JDM B16A already comes with a short geared cable transmission to where this motor comes with a hydraulic transmission which will need to be swapped out or modified (hydraulic conversion). These are the only items of concern with this swap:
Wiring Harness-You will need to use your existing B18A1 cream plug wiring harness. It will plug into everything on the motor except for the distributor and injectors. And just like the XSi B16a, you’ll have to add the 3 wires for VTEC and the second oxygen sensor. Also, the temperature switch on this motor is located on the thermostat housing unlike your B18A1 which is located on the back side of the block, so you will have to cut and extend the two wire plug to reach the thermostat housing. But this is fairly easy. The gray plug harness that comes with the OBD-1 B16A cannot be used, but can easily be sold for $100-$125 as they are in high demand.
Motor Mounts-Use your existing B18A1 motor mounts and you’ll have no problems. The Civic motor mounts are different and cannot be used.
Distributor-You can use your B18A distributor but the leg towards the front of the car has to be cut off to allow clearance for the VTEC purge assembly. You will only have two bolts holding your distributor, but that is adequate. You can do this or your other choice is to buy a non-OBD VTEC distributor (PR3). You can find them on the net for as little as $100, but most are priced at about $150. The OBD-1 Distributor that came with the motor cannot be used but can be sold for $150-$200.
Injectors-You will need to use your existing non-OBD B18A1 injectors. The OBD-1 injectors have a different plug on them made for the gray OBD-1 harness. Other than that, the injectors are identical.
ECU-This motor will come with an OBD-1 VTEC ECU (P30). You cannot use this ECU with your harness that is inside your vehicle (non-OBD). So sell it and buy a non-OBD VTEC ECU (PR3, PWO). Either one of those ECU’s will run the OBD-1 B16A perfectly with your B18A1 harness.
Transmission- This engine also comes equipped with a hydraulic transmission, which either needs to be swapped out for a short geared cable transmission (J1, S1) or I believe Place Racing makes a hydraulic to cable converter that you can use. But then you are talking about more money. Again you can buy a YS1 short geared transmission, but you will need a clutch assembly from a 92-93 Integra."
Hey thanks for all that info brother…
It looks like the b16a (w/ cable tranny) makes the
most sense for me right now. I just found out that
the person I was suppose to get it from wants way too
much for the engine alone. ($2,500.00) The engine has
88k on it!
I’m just going to go w/ hondamotorsonline.com
I’ll be doing this swap in about 2 weeks…
thanks for your individual help, I’ll be sure to take
pics, and show you the final product…
thanks again
Originally posted by AllmansTEG
Hey thanks for all that info brother…
It looks like the b16a (w/ cable tranny) makes the
most sense for me right now. I just found out that
the person I was suppose to get it from wants way too
much for the engine alone. ($2,500.00) The engine has
88k on it!
I’m just going to go w/ hondamotorsonline.com
I’ll be doing this swap in about 2 weeks…
thanks for your individual help, I’ll be sure to take
pics, and show you the final product…
thanks again
good luck. and have fun. i know i had a blast doing my swap, even through the headaches it caused at times.