has anyone ever swapped in a 2.5/3.0 into their tegs? or any engine that isn’t a b series?
i know a friend who has mad hookups. he can get custom motor mounts built, and he can do the entire swap himself. so please don’t leave any experience questions, but any concerns you guys might have with the swap and any advice (ie the frame holding up to a 3.0). anyway, get back to me with some responses.
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That’s about the craziest thing I’ve ever heard of. The gen2 has a very cramped engine bay. Jackson doesn’t even make a supercharger for us because it wouldn’t fit and you want to put a v6 or whatever in there? Besides, the reason we get our g2’s is because they are reliable; you put a ford engine in there and you can kiss that goodbye.
H22A VTEC preludes are your best bet. Although, you’re gonna have to change more than the engine mounts to make it work. But, it’s the most worthwhile non b-series engine swap available. It’s best to stick with the same engine manufacturer as your car. Besides, why would you want a Ford?
Regards,
Oz
H22A VTEC preludes are your best bet. Although, you’re gonna have to change more than the engine mounts to make it work. But, it’s the most worthwhile non b-series engine swap available. It’s best to stick with the same engine manufacturer as your car. Besides, why would you want a Ford?
i would do a h22a vtec, but money is a concern. i can’t afford anything, lol. i can pick up a good 2.5/3.0 from the junkyard for like $100, while the h22a would be like $2,000+.
why do you say i should stick with the same engine as my manufacturer? i’m not trying to be rude or anything, i just want to see why you would say that. from my experience fords are just as easy to work on as the honda engines. and my friend, who does most of the work on my car, knows fords like the back of his hand so any problems i have he could tell me how to deal with them in a snap as opposed to him not know what he’s doing on the hondas.
Besides, the reason we get our g2’s is because they are reliable; you put a ford engine in there and you can kiss that goodbye.
why do you think fords are so unreliable? if i know what i’m doing and work on my car all the time is reliability that strong of a concern? and i don’t think a 3.0 is as unreliable as some shitbox hyundai, etc engine. please just explain your thoughts more. from my experience the teg has been less reliable as some fords, but that’s only because my teg wasn’t taken care of. so i could say hondas aren’t reliable, ya know? anyhow, just reply back with your thoughts
Originally posted by x4evawizex
i would do a h22a vtec, but money is a concern. i can’t afford anything, lol. i can pick up a good 2.5/3.0 from the junkyard for like $100, while the h22a would be like $2,000+.
why do you say i should stick with the same engine as my manufacturer? i’m not trying to be rude or anything, i just want to see why you would say that. from my experience fords are just as easy to work on as the honda engines. and my friend, who does most of the work on my car, knows fords like the back of his hand so any problems i have he could tell me how to deal with them in a snap as opposed to him not know what he’s doing on the hondas.
Back in the fall, I got a quote for an H22A engine. $2500Cdn. which equates to roughly $1500US. Albeit, that’s still expensive, but that’s close to your average B16. Okay, now to answer your question. I guess I’ve had bad experiences with Ford family cars/vans before and that’s why I don’t like 'em that much. But even if you told me that you’re gonna swap a Toyota Celica engine in there, I still wouldn’t recommend it. You have a take into account what axles can you install, shift linkages might be too short, alternator is on the wrong side, etc. Chances are, you’re looking at a lot of engine bay fabrication here…even more so when dealing with bigger engines (ie. 3.0L V6).
Yeah, it’s tempting to work on and install a $100 engine, but in the end, you could end up spending as much $$$ (or even more) compared to an H22 swap.
BTW, every car manufacturer in the world (whether it be honda or ford), doesn’t like to hear/see other engines being installed in their cars coz’ it says a lot about their reputation. If you were honda, wouldn’t you be insulted by seeing a bunch of car-junkies driving their Integras, civics, CRXs around with X brand engine inside? So, they make the best effort to ensure only their engines can fit properly in their car. It’s like Intel changing their chip architecture starting with Pentium II coz’ they got sick and tired of AMD and Cyrix copying their specs.
Regards,
Oz
even if you could shoehorn this ford engine in and make the tranny work that’s now facing the wrong direction (and spinning the wrong way too i think), i couldn’t imagine trying to figure out the electronics.
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exactly have fun changing the wiring! plus what if the engine is used on rear wheel drive! but hey if you wanna try its your car! were just here for advice and tips! peace:D
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exactly have fun changing the wiring! plus what if the engine is used on rear wheel drive! but hey if you wanna try its your car! were just here for advice and tips! peace
the wiring won’t be that big of a problem. i’ll just use the ECU from the engine i grab and use that. also, i would obviously grab a FWD engine, the 3.0 taurus and escort gts are FWD.
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I’ll excuse your ignorance and stupidity if you explain yourself. I can understand Oz, and others who actually EXPLAIN themselves, and I respect them for that. but you, lol. yeah…
and in regards to honda being offended (well just designing differently), many cars have had engine overhauls on them. somebody down here in miami had a 3.0 in his teg, a 5.0 in a miata, and others like that. with enough time and energy i’m pretty sure it can be done. i’ll take a million pictures as i do it so i can have proof for you all.
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No need to explain myself, if you did pull it off, you know what I would say, “that was stupid” mollesting your chassis and such. I’ve done engine swaps etc and know what I am talking about, so I can speak from experience, that idea is just plain stupid.
That sounds insanely difficult, like where would you find axles to fit, or would you get them custom built or would you just take an entire ford front end and kinda slap it on somehow? And how would you hook up your speedo and such, or would you just not use the integra gauge cluster and install something else? I’ve never swapped an engine (yet…), but it seems to me like it would be waaaaay too much work and cost waaaay too much to do the swap, especially since money is a concern. Anything is possible, but this just doesn’t seem feasible. It would be an impressive sight though…
i’m not worried about getting the engine in there. I’m worried about wiring it up. The obd II from the 2.5L duratec is a pain in the arse. But hey, anything could happen.
As for the 5.0 miata. Here it is…
http://www.speedfreak.cc/miata/
can someone say FAST? The guy that built this also built up a 5.0 in a explorer. and that thing is quick too!
What about guages? shift linkage? transmission placement? axles? hubs? etc… if he can do it, go for it, but like it was said, starting a big project will cost a lot more than you can imagine. I started off wanting cams alone, spent ~$300 and now I’ve spent over 1500 on extras and its not even anywhere near being in my car yet. You can get greedy!!!
whats wrong with your b18? If you want a 3.0 ford engine why dont you just sell your integra and buy a ford. it would save alot of time
Wiring and Electronics won’t be a problem as long as you stick with the same electronic system as the engine (ie. Ford engine, Ford Electronics, etc.). You might get wrong readings on your dash though, but there are aftermarket gauges for that (that’s simple enough). I personally believe it’s more of a physical limitation of the Integra’s engine bay accomodating a 3.0L V6. You’re probably going to have to cut the axles or something in order to accomodate the extra length that the tranny and engine take up…this is provided that you stick to FWD. RWD, you’re gonna have to chop that fuel tank somehow coz’ it’s blocking the spot where the rear differential should be.
The best way to probably approach something like this is to install the engine in the trunk. I remember back in the early '90s where they shoe-horned (as daver puts it) an SHO Taurus engine into a Ford Festiva. Rear-mounted RWD monster. I’m curious if you thought about that.
I’m not saying it’s impossible, just saying it’ll be more worthwhile doing the H22 swap since you avoid any engine bay fabrication.
Regards,
Oz
sorry, i’ve been away from the boards for a couple days…
but what the crap for ???
the 2.5 kl-ze fits great in a probe or mx-6…mainly because they’re mazdas, like the engine. Prolly the same reason honda engines fit really well in our cars. 'Cause they’re hondas.
First of all…why would you want a pos ford engine???just go buy a damn ford if you want something that will fall apart. And for the h22a…thats a swap that requires custom sheetmetal modification. That engine is also the only honda 4cyl that rotates the opposire direction. yesh the engine is only 1500-2000, but it would be another 2000-3000 to get it put in. Just get a b16 and dump the extea 4000 into that…it would be a lot faster
H22 doesn’t rotate the opposite direction of the b-series.
where’d you read that?
the NEW engines (i.e. the ones equipped with i-VTEC for example, there’s others, but just for simplicity sake) rotate clockwise, but if it’s pre-2k1 (except s2000, it rotates clockwise) in most models it rotates counter-clockwise. that includes the h-22.