Hey guys, I am trying to decide if I should go with a sleeve style coilover (GC) paired with a set of koni yellows, or a single unit coilover such as the Tein SS. I have heard that the ride of a single unit coilover is alot nicer and quiter. However I know that alot of people choose the GC setup. What do you guys think!?
Thanks
Do you want to buy my tein ss’s? Make me an offer. Very clean and barley used. Rides very nice too.
Teins are good, but probably overrated (and overly good for what most people need them for)
If Teins are much more expensive, go with GC
So what setup is a BETTER setup though if money wasn’t a concern? What is the main noticeable differances? Thanks guys
Better how? You didn’t mention what your focus is with your car so this is hard to answer. Also, I am sure there are not a lot of members who dropped a grand on some Teins and then spent the $$$ on some GC/Konis. I could be wrong, but hey, that is a lot of $$$ spent on suspensions.
Many of the Auto-x guys will say they like the GC/Koni for the range of custom set-ups they can choose, where as you get 1 setup with the Tein SS. Now you can re-valve and swap springs on the Teins but you have to send them back to do it which will cost you $$$.
Consider this, if all you want is a nice stance and descent ride, then just get some nice springs and quality struts.
Eibach springs and Tokico Iluminas
less expensive, and a Great ride… I also suggest, if you drop the car too low, get some GC top hats (check out the GC website for more info)
What do you mean by this?
What do YOU mean, what do I mean? Think about it for a sec. How many members do you think there are that spent $800-$1000 for Teins and also spent $600-$800 on GC/Konis, or went from GC/Koni to Teins. That is a lot of $$$ in suspension parts. Now let’s say there are 5 (made up #). Out of those 5, how many do you think are knowledgeable enough to give you a reliable opinion?
What you are going to get are guys that own Teins and love them (mostly street guys), and guys who own GC/Koni and love them (could be street or track, depends on their spring rates). Their opinions have to be taken in context, where MOST auto-x guys aren’t going to tell you anything good about Teins (because they don’t use them). And on the other hand if you are a street guy and you run around with some of the “track setups” & spring rates (GC/Koni) hardcore guys like, you may have 1 sore ass. Mild GC coils and Konis will give you a nice coilover ride if that is what you are after, as will the Teins. You have to consider where you are getting opinions from, guys who like bone shaking rides in their track cars, or street guys that want a good semi-stiff ride.
My suggestion was based on you sounding like you wanted a nice riding street car, but you didn’t come out and say that. Save yourself some time and $$$ and get some quality springs and struts that you don’t have to adjust and get it aligned (adding camber kits if nessecary for the amount of drop), and call it a day.
for a street car, the ride on my tein ss are very nice…on soft, they ride really smooth, almost stock…on hard, its pretty solid, but not harsh…
i got suckered by the tein hype, i wish i would have spent 700 or so on koni/gc and got better rates for autox…the tein rears are pretty soft…
thats not to say the teins are a shitty product, they havent rusted in the two years ive had them and i like the adjustability…but slightly overpriced, yes…
but no matter what, id get a coilover system to fine tune the ride height…
Ive Had Teins On My 99Si about 2 years ago, after that they started to leak! i was told about this by a lot of people that had them but i tried it out myself. i wish i couldve just bought some GC’s and some quality shocks instead of the Teins. If AutoX is your goal then i would not go with the SS. Now wat i have on My Db2 is some cheap coilovers, Tokico Blues. i swapped out the coils and put some SPoon Springs that had rates of 14k/16k and it is crazy stiff but good for road racing.
the springs usually go for 180 a pair
i would go with the ss
there shocks are valved perfect to there springrates…
with gc…it depends on shocks
unless u go with a speical valve from koni for it
like right now
my agx’s are kinda stiff for my springrate cuasing it to be a tad hard
IMO
my brother’s springrates are 12k/10k
and they ride so much nicer
even thought its much higher than mine…
so the tein ss’s are dampening force adjustable? I am not going to be autox’ing the car but I want some awesome performing suspension with a goal of minimal body roll in mind.
Wraith makes a good point that’s often over looked. Most people on this site have not tried enough setups to know the difference between one brand/setup and the next.
That said, I’m sold on Koni products. Off the shelf Koni Sports are more than enough for the average “sport” driver. They’re even good enough for some competion level drivers. I’ve switched to custom built Koni’s from the street spec stuff and it’s an even greater difference.
In the process of trying a bunch of different combos (at least 8 that I can remember), I’ve spent a ton of money on shocks and springs. What did I learn from all this? Save your money and buy the right setup once the first time.
The best advice I can give you is this: Find someone with a similar car and take a ride. Base your decision on those experiences. What I feel is right may not be the right setup for you.
Monroe shocks and a set of swaybars will do that for you too.
I think you need to do some more homework before spending your money.
yes please do more research and you’ll findout what is really right for you.
I have had 3 different tegs with 3 different suspensions.
Teg 1: Kyb struts with arospeed coilovers, the struts bottomed out alot and had good handling but a very bumpy ride.
Teg 2: Had tokico blues with gc coilovers, these didnt bottom out much, had a decent ride, was bumpy when you went over bumps and potholes, with good handling. They soon leaked and all are now bad, which is why they now have a very crappy ride.
Teg 3: Tein ss coilovers, Great ride, very smooth. Great handling also. The struts never bottomed out, and are adjustable. These have a “factory like ride” but a sports car handling.