i’m wondering everyones opinion on Hondabond vs just good RTV. seeing as how hondabond is like $13 for almost half the amount of what you get with RTV, is hondabond really worth it and that much better to use with metal to metal mating surfaces, or with oil pan gaskets and other gaskets?
thanks :rockon:
edit: thanks for moving it to the right area sorry for the mistake
all i know is that rtv can also be used as a gasket and does not harden like hondabond.
hmm ok
being that hondabond hardens is that good/bad when used with the mentioned areas?
i personally wouldn’t. i know that there are die-hard hondabond people on here and don’t want to start a fight. all i can say is that i’ve been told by very good sources that hondabond is not meant as a gasket maker. i would say to do more research on it and go with whatever you come up with.
thats the first actual reason ive heard for or against it haha. all ive ever heard is use cause is Honda stuff, or use it cause the dealership does, or Hondabond is the best, etc etc but never have i heard an actual reason why its so much better or prefered to just plain ole RTV sealant.
still open to ideas im not just gonna go off one opinion and i know what you mean about the diehards, but i do appreciate the input gil, i know you have some valuble info on here usually :rockon:
i believe the service manual states the oil pan gasket should be mounted dry w/ no liquid gasket. You might put like a dab in the corners or places where you need the gasket to stay put.
i’ve just used RTV to “tack” the corners when installing my valve cover gasket. I’ve never applied gasket all around the surface.
IMHO, anything Hondabond can do, clear-silicone-in-a-tube can do just as well… for much less money. And the next time you go to use it, the clear-silicone-in-a-tube will probably still be useable, unlike the Hondabond, which seems to completely harden no matter how well you screw the cap back on.
Hondabond is not used as a gasket maker, more of a gasket sealer if you will. All the techs at work use it while putting a gasket on to hold the gasket in place and keep it from moving. It is recommended by Honda to do so I am told. My oil pan gasket and my VC gasket are both heavily Hondabonded in. I have no worries.
although I am not against hondabond, I didnt use any of this on my built motor or transmission. I sourced out something comforable to that called Permatex Ultra Grey. this stuff is very good, and alot of FI guys on HT will tell you it’s just like hondabond. I have used the ultra black RTV and the high temp red stuff but the ultra grey, like hondabond is like concrete. it WILL NOT LEAK!!!
so its looking like ill just save a few bucks and just get some Ultra Grey 
i did some searching and didnt find to much different otherwise
appreciate all the opinions :rockon:
[QUOTE=smokeintegra;2101751]although I am not against hondabond, I didnt use any of this on my built motor or transmission. I sourced out something comforable to that called Permatex Ultra Grey. this stuff is very good, and alot of FI guys on HT will tell you it’s just like hondabond. I have used the ultra black RTV and the high temp red stuff but the ultra grey, like hondabond is like concrete. it WILL NOT LEAK!!!
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Lol. This stuff is pretty much the same as hondabond, just much cheaper. I have since started using this stuff (I ahve gone through 2 tubes of hondabond in my life) and it feels the same, smells the same (yes, really) bonds the same, etc. Just I paid 5 bux for it, as opposed to 17 after tax for the hondabond. I love honda and OEM crap( I only use the honda hi temp urea grease for input shafts and stuff), but the price can not be justified to run hondabond over permatex grey.
I used the permatex red for my valvecover and cam seal and it worked great.
i guess an update…i went with the ultra grey and coming up on 5000 miles now and no leaks at the oil pan, pump, valve cover, rear main cover, etc all worked great.
now not saying hondabond isnt worth it or is that it isnt any good, but if you want to save a few bucks the ultra grey will work just fine
Heres an idea buy the gaskets you need stop wasting peoples thoughts with this kind of stuff
some things dont need a gasket and just require sealant…
^^^ yeah like almost every part of a k series engine;)
Honda has Ultraflange for where there are no gaskets, like k oil pans. Stuff works great.
I was once told by a honda guru that hondabond IS ultra grey.
Ive always used airplane gasket sealant, works the best you can find it a lowes or home depot about 2 bucks and is the best that i used