As mentioned multiple times by other members in this thread click here, I am assuming that this harness is not installed correctly such as how the straps run straight up from the floor board through the seat holes, and then over the drivers shoulders.
Should these straps be mounted on the floor a couple of feet back from the base of the seat rear instead of on the floor directly behind the base of the seat rear (*In other words, should they NOT be fastened to the floor board flush with the back of the seat)?
What gets me is that this next car, a HondaTuningMagazine feature car, has the same mounting scheme with its belts:
So what is one left to do?
It would be nice if we could get some pics of how others have theirs installed.
Is this the correct seatbelt strap angle? (I am refering to the drivers side shoulder straps and how they are fastened to the floor behind the drivers seat.)
Here is another pic which sort of shows how they are fastened down to the floor:
oh god. well i guess its good that you are asking and being smart
45degrees or more
http://www.takataracingproducts.com/guide.html
near the bottom
[QUOTE=jdmb16b;1806795]oh god. well i guess its good that you are asking and being smart
45degrees or more
http://www.takataracingproducts.com/guide.html
near the bottom[/QUOTE]
Thanks. Also, it is now clear after looking at the Takata instruction manual that I can use the seatbelt mounting points/bolt-holes from the rear seatbelts as a means of fastening the shoulder straps down. This MAY or SHOULD provide me with enough of a shoulder strap angle to be well within the safe range. I sure hope the Sparco shoulder straps are long enough. I plan on getting the Sparco 4-point buckle style bolt-in harness/seatbelt setup.
Thanks again.
i’m happy to see someone answered ur question. as for the first post, yea thats a good way to live your life in a wheelchair. 45 or more is the rule. anything under u risk compressing ur spin in a crash and i’m sure u know what can happen with that. takata gets my vote but sparco should be long enough if u got the right kit. good luck
Thankyou to everyone that has replied. Hopefully this info can be very useful to other member with the same questions.
well my two cents is this. . .
you want the shoulder harness portions to be AS CLOSE TO HORIZONTAL as you can get them. the steeper the angle the more likely the harness is to compress, crush, or in the worst case. . . .fracture or break your spine. thats why High-End companys have “Harness Bars” these are made to position the shoulder straps as level as possible without being combersome or entirely in the way of rear passengers.
the lap belt on the other hand can safely be mounted to the two stock locations that contain(ed) your stock belt-end, and buckle. i have seen plenty of people that use there stock seatbelts and still have harness installed for when they like to play hard.
but all in all ALWAYS try to get them as level as possible. it will save your spine and neck from potentuly critical, and/or fatal damage.
and on a side note. . . try not to have the mounting point to close to the seat because one of the ways seatbelts and harnesses for that matter protect you is by strectching. if theres no webbing to stretch then you have no way for it to obsorb the force of the impact.
[SIZE=“7”]DO NOT MOUNT HARNESSES TO C-PILLAR BARS[/SIZE]
C pillar bars are designed to work in compression, not shear.
[SIZE=“6”]Only mount them to an approved harness bar, factory seatbelt mounts, or somewhere on an approved roll cage’s harness bar.[/SIZE]
You’re out of your ever-loving mind if you think anywhere else is safe. I have a Schroth 3 point ASM harness in my car. The outside lap belt is mounted to a nut that originally holds the seatbelt reel in the door sill area. The inside lap belt is mounted to one of the studs that holds the automatic seatbelt reel by the e-brake. The vertical portion of the seatbelt is mounted to the rear driver’s side upper seatbelt mount. This is the only safe and easy way to mount a 3 point harness in our cars. Installation of this harness required removal of both inertia reel seatbelts.
I really fail to see why so many people put harness in street cars. Wearing a harness in a car without a roll cage is stupid. If you roll the car over & the roof caves in where do you move your head too? :danger: At least in a roll over you have room to move over if you flip. :hmm:
I installed mine because it’s hard to stay planted in the stock seat at 1.2G’s. I’m just hoping I never am involved in a rollover accident…
on our cars where do you put the eye bolts for the lap belt?
I can kinda understand why you could do it in something like a DA because of the automatic seatbelt. When I went to put EP3 seats in my car, it was a bitch trying to figure out how to work around the auto shoulder belt. I ended up saying fuck it and if I wanted to do seats like that I would either convert to canadian belts or I would do a harness. Other than that reason I think it is pointless to have them in a street car.