well i finally got mines…its a rage but i made nice power out of it…ill post up dyno numbers as soon as i can…peace…made 161.52whp and 114.32lbs of torque on my stock b16 with an hondata s300…
[QUOTE=Armed Ferret;1855063]1. at that point, they cease to be the highest quality parts, and
- the highest quality parts also have the highest quality of customer service backing them up–part of that “total package” idea of highest quality parts. if there’s a problem, they make it right.
again, performing as it should, while a subjective term, includes proper fitment without modification. if it doesn’t fit properly, it can’t perform as it should.
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I disagree. Fitament and performance are related you are correct there. But even parts that don’t fit “perfectly” can still be made to fit and perform as it’s design was intended. The flange fits as it should, and seals as it should, it’s angle was off a little. Now that it’s been made to fit, the power it produces is up to the tune, and design of the product. So “proper fitament without modification” is a personal preference in my opinion. Some OEM honda parts (arguably the highest quality) can sometimes require some modification (i.e. ITR swaybars, EG/DC struts, DC strut bars, DC Seats etc). But their overall performance and function would mainly be due to their design. If they are overly modified to fit then of course their design (being for a different car) would not play as big a role.
That’s how I see it. I still say if the header makes the power it’s advertised to, then the fact that it had to be coaxed into place is irrellevant. It was designed to make power, and did. End of discussion as far as I’m concered. Just my opinion.
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again, performing as it should, while a subjective term, includes proper fitment without modification. if it doesn’t fit properly, it can’t perform as it should.
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you had to modify your legend caliper brackets to fit the g2s no? but they do perform as they should no?
ps… lets keep it civil this time… no need for another flaming war.
actually, no.
well anyhow point is i think some things just need custom fabrication to fit… unless you’re changing the product drastically to adversely affect the performance… i dont see any harm in making a custom flange that meets the replica headers at a slightly different angle.
for the price that the replica is… i dont think any other header has them beat.
well let me first start by saying, I’m a man of luxury and performance. I live in Modesto, CA and summer is coming up… and summers here are ridiculously hot. my question is would it clear the AC compressor or would I have to remove it to enjoy the power gains of a tri-y?
considering neither of them have CARB approval/exemption, you’re probably better off sticking with either a DC or the JDM 4-1.
but for the record it does clear a/c.
clearing a/c and actually being legal are two different things.
he didn’t ask if it was legal, he asked if it cleared the a/c. look man we get it, you aren’t thrilled about these headers. point taken. :nobody:
I understand that. I was going on the thought that maybe he didn’t realize they weren’t legal to have in the first place, which makes his question moot.
As for your guess that I’m not thrilled about these headers, nothing could be further from the truth.
I just think that, given the entire point of this “product reviews” forum, it’s pertinent to share ALL the information about them, rather than just plug the positive selling points, maybe glaze over one or two negatives as simply “minor setbacks” and be done with it. Objective reviews are the only true review. Those that focus solely on the positives with little to no information about negatives are nothing more than a sales pitch.
Just trying to keep things objective and to the point, that’s all.
thanks for the info… i knew they weren’t smog legal… all the parts in my car aren’t smog legal i really couldn’t care any less if they were all i care about is goin fast and staying all motor… not a fan of forced induction…
the tri y knock off’s have horrible ground clearance. i sold mine within hours of installing it onto my boys b swapped eg. there is maybe 2-3 inches clearance, and his chassis has more clearance than ours. anything short of flat asphalt, and the tri y is going to get crushed. potential g2 buyers beware
no more than a JDM ITR and it’s knockoffs. PW JDM makes a header shield i’m purchasing here soon.
have u actually put a tri y on ur car? cuz i have. trust me, the gc is worse that the itr piece
according to the bigass photo thread on h-t, the real ones (SMSP, HyTech, etc) have much better ground clearance than the chinese knockoff shit.
exactly. in that same thread, there is a pic of the tri y on a red EF chassis, with the vicegrip showing one inch clearance. thats a good friend of mine. that header really is shit. it makes numbers, but its not worth much. i picked one up a few years ago when they were $199 on ebay. i’m so glad i found a buyer to take that shit away
um i started this thread. so yes. ive had 4 headers on my car. 2 jdm itr replicas, one 4-2-1 ebay special, and this current hytech copy. this one is no worse than the jdm replicas i’ve had.
so u had this tri header on the b17?where can u get em?if i go allmotor will pick these up.if fi-turbo then no.
i really hope you find out you have a testicular cyst and can’t breed.