Is Helms shop manaul helpful for interior swap?

I am currently about to take my friends wrecked DA with a full black leather interior and swap it into my DA that is black with the infamous tan interior. Before i start tho i am wondering if a Helms shop manual would help. I dont have much experience with these and before i spend the money i just wanna know if it has a lot of information on the interior and how to remove it. I have never done much with an interior and I want to do this right and make it look good.

and when i say swap i mean i am swapping the whole interior. headliner, door panels, plastic trim. everything but the upper part of the dash that is already black. I need something that will help me do this

oh ya help is appreciated

everything but the dash should be pretty straightforward, i wouldn’t use a manual personally. it’s just a bunch of screws and a couple bolts really. just make sure you keep track of what everything is out of. if you do it all at once (strip both cars completely before moving everything to your car) then ziplock baggies and a marker will come in handy for keeping track of hardware.

/\ /+1 on that.

I know w/ the headliner you remove the visors, lights, etc first. (well, AFTER you remove the window trim pieces of course) Then there’s a little round plug w/ a slot in it. remove that, then wiggle the liner back & forth. It should fall down. The manual WILL help w/ this.

Make sure to disconnect the wiring before you pull the liner out through the trunk area.

With the under dash, you gotta remove the steering wheel trim; then the cluster- A/C panel before you can get to the screws holding the top of the under dash trim. The Manual DOES explain this part.

The door panels have screws in the handles & on the sides. Pop clips on the bottom. Remove screws, pull out on bottom, lift up panel. The manual WILL help w/ these for sure.

Get the manual anyway. It will help w/ SOO many other things than just the trim. I’ve done all the work on my car w/ the just the manual, help from G2IC, & some good friends.

The manual should be the first thing anybody gets when they buy a car. Invaluable tool.


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[QUOTE=h93da6;1961158]
Get the manual anyway. It will help w/ SOO many other things than just the trim. I’ve done all the work on my car w/ the just the manual, help from G2IC, & some good friends.

The manual should be the first thing anybody gets when they buy a car. Invaluable tool.[/QUOTE]

Totally agreed.
$15 for TONS of useful information.

where can you get this manual anyway, im not having any luck around where i live, is it something you have to order off the net or would a parts store be able to order it?

[QUOTE=willbad;1962082]Totally agreed.
$15 for TONS of useful information.[/QUOTE]

$15??? where at??

Local parts store would have it. however, if you can find an actual Honda service manual online, I’d get that. It’ll cost more but will have more info; like on the A/C & some little stuff.

The HELMS manual is supposed to be the best of the manuals besides the factory version. There’s also the HAYNES manual & the CHILTON version.

It really just boils down to which one your store can get. The info is pretty much identical; just made by different companies.


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Corniest quote ever: “Get yours today! JDM is IN!”

ya im definitly looking into ordering the helms manual. i have done haynes and chilton but the helms is the actual shop manual. I wonder if i can get it through honda

Definitely get the Helms. I have a Chilton’s and a Helms, and the Chilton’s does a better job of illustrating ‘some’ things, but the Helms has WAY more detailed information and diagrams. Removing your interior should go in this order, door panels come first so they are not damaged while pulling out the front seats:

Door panels.

Front Seats.

Rear Seats.

Hatch carpet/spare tire cover.

Rear speaker covers.

Trunk tail light cover panel.

Rear panels.

The panels covering the hatch frame and rear wiper motor.

Weather stripping holding back of headliner to your frame.

Sun visors.

Rear view mirror.

Reading/map light assembly. (carefully pop the edges to get the cover off with a very thin and dull butter knife or panel popper, look for the flat spots around the edges to see where to pry)

Dome light assembly. (same as reading/map assembly, two prying spots on the front and back)

(at this point you can prop something up between your dash, or floor, and the two front corners of your headliner where the sun visors screw into to keep the headliner from getting in the way after the next couple of pieces are removed. This can also help to prevent it from bending too much, and creating ugly ‘wrinkles’ in the vinyl. Your headliner may still be attached to your roof by a few clips, if so this is not such an important step but is more than worth mentioning so you do not ruin your headliner)

A/B pillar combo panels.

Hatch hydraulic damper covers. (also the clips at the bottom of the C pillar cover panel)

C pillar panel. (you will have to unbolt the rear seat belt upper mount to remove this panel)

Rubber weather stripping holding the headliner to the sunroof aperture.

There is a little knob that holds the back of the headliner to the roof, turn this until it unhooks, and pull the headliner out through the hatch, which should be bare.

Kick/under dash panels.

Center console.

Ebrake cover panel.

Ebrake handle cover. (just pull hard away from the handle, it will slide off)

Dash assembly and accessory controls (if you need it). This is a multi-step removal but is pretty easy once you get it.

Now don’t forget the little things that people sometimes miss:

Hood latch, hatch latch, gas door latch and latch housing cover.

Seat belts.

Seat belt slot covers.

Lastly is the carpet and the steps (don’t remember what they are really called, they are the things that sit in bottom of the door frame for you to step on getting into the car :P). It can be a bitch to pull out the carpet, it depends what condition it’s in. I highly suggest buying some small zip-lock bags and a black sharpie, and carefully label each bag with it’s respective panel’s parts EG: ‘hatch carpet push pins’ ‘rear seat mounting bolts’ ‘driver door panel screws’.

Re-use the mounting hardware (screws, bolts, etc…) from your car that are still in good shape, and use the pieces from your bags to replace the others or ones that may be missing. This way you have spares accurately labeled should you need them in the future. :rockon:

EDIT: Also, be careful when pulling panels that have a lot of metal clips attached to them, like the pillar panels. Instead of pulling hard on them to take them off, pull enough to get the first clip undone on one side, and slowly walk your fingers down the part on both sides (so if you are moving your hands horizontally, have one set of fingers on the top and one set on the bottom moving together), prying the clips out of the frame one by one. It also helps if you can warm up the panel until it is warm to the touch using a blow dryer or heat gun, this gives you a LOT more room for error, but be very very careful not to overheat the plastic or you will ruin the finish. If you crack or snap a panel you will want to replace it or it will look like utter shit.

that is definitly gonna help me with my swap. and i think im gonna order the hels manual after christmas when i have a little more money. thanks fellas. this is why i love forums!!

www.helminc.com is where you get it. But you can definitely find it for free if you look around some other forums (sorry can’t give the links, but just google and you’ll find)

i found acouple differant pdf versions but they all seem to have a bunch of pages “folded” like it was scanned page by page

Yep, thats going to be normal if you go for a PDF version. Mine is like that. I have yet however to find a page I could not read, or the fold was over something I needed. I have been through most of my wiring, engine swap/rebuild trans swap/rebuild and suspension change. I have pulled parts of my interior, for a stereo build up, I have not found a page that was folded or unreadable that I needed. However, I know of at least 2 different scanned pdfs. The one I have has a pretty decent index. Someone spent a ton of time making indexes of every chapter. The other 1 I had found did not.

where did you find the pdf versions of the manual?

i googled 90 integra helms, it came up with a bunch of torrents and you just pick one, i found both versions now, one is broken down to differant sections and the other is the whole manual in one pdf

One of the forumites posted a link to the file. This was some time ago. Yeah, I think it was the one wherein each page was scanned as Dogskull mentioned. I think I downloaded the file then.