http://www.kingmotorsports.com/product.asp?product=402
After I swap in a EF rack, I have no problems with my DA6 rack not looped or anything and absolutely love it, I accually wish it a a little heavyer on the wheel. You may be asking why swap in a ef rack when you want it harder to turn. The answer is this mod will help with the heavyer feel, besides… Less turns lock to lock. 
:rockon: :hmm:
this means you still have to buy the ef rack then install the new gears, right?
it sounds like it would be worth it to me, rt now my system is looped, i was hesitant to swap to ef because of the ratio, if the ratio is better than the ratio of what we have now, then it IS worth it, bad news ef rack $100 junk yard, quafie gears $239+, new inner rods$70, new outter rod ends$90 (honda genuine), and bushings$6. so $505 in steering (to me still worth it to you i do not know), let us know either way.
it’s what i’m replacing my looped DA rack with. 
besides, EF racks can be had for less than 50 bones from a junkyard…not sure where you shop, but you might want to try www.car-part.com for some comparisons.
that and any parts store can get you inner and outer tie rods for 150 (or possibly less depending on area) for all 4 pieces (2 inner, 2 outer). so it’s not AS much as you think. for someone like me who’s completely doing a full rebuild from the ground up of pretty much any part that can wear, it’s not that big a deal. i’m patient. i can wait.
btw…that’s not the only place that sells those gearsets. there’s others…that don’t charge as much for shipping.
Thanks for the advice, still, first thing in line for the suspention is bushings and the ogle swaybar link tip. My steering rack is busted anyways, so I need a new rack. I figured why not swap while I’m at it! :rockon:
BTW, I am not as much making a car for performance, but I am doing more of a restoration project with some performance parts.
if that’s the case, you may want to stick with a rebuilt DA rack and just loop it. the quaife parts are not an entire steering rack unit as you know it–just the pinion gear and rack gear. you have to have an EF rack already, and be willing to do the work properly to swap out the pinion and rack gears that are already in it. along with that will be probably $150 worth of “wear parts” that will need to be replaced. if you’re up to the investment, go for it, but it’s not an easy project. just rebuilding the rack will likely take a full weekend.
Really… I need to do some more research, so far, I found an EF rack for $12.50+tax at the local Pull-a-part salvage yard. Hell, I got my B18A (that runs for the record)I am going to rebuild for $125+tax. I guess these guys are just full of deals. If you go through with it, let me know, because you will likely come up with the money before me. My car is/was literally falling apart all arounds me.
i am also doing my car as a restoration, i have never opened a steering rack before, these wear and tear items, if i got a rebuilt rack, woulr i need these, and what are these on a manual rack? thanks
btw who else sells the gear sets.
if you’ve never done it before, i HIGHLY suggest going to www.car-part.com and locating the least expensive boneyard rack near you to practice on (that way you can still use yours as a core if you mess up). the Helm manual has an entire section devoted to steering–definitely a very good investment to buy it if you haven’t already.
now exactly what years is the ef ?(sorry don’t really like civics)
88-91
thats what i thought thanks.
The general consensus on HT is that the values are reversed. The EF rack actually uses the 3.25 LTL kit. Your stock DA is about 3.5 LTL. Is all that expense and trouble really worth it? I just assume keep the DA rack with power steering and reap the benefits.
i think it says 2.83 ltl (with quafie gears), plus rebuilding a rack myself would be a good experience, plus it is 7 lbs lighter. with a g2 any suspension work we can do will help especially for those going NA setup, to maximize our car inorder to beat forced cars we need to do all we can in other ways
Did you not read what I just posted? Most of the documentation you see on the actual ratios is wrong. Several people on the HT thread confirmed that the EF kit was indeed 3.25 LTL…
ok, dont like HT
but i can’t… so hurry the fluck up and finish it already… i wanna see :giggle:
I went to a do-it-yourself junkyard place and got a rack for $15. That’s what I had on my teg before.
LAtes.