I will be buying a set of these in the next few weeks and will report back appropriately. I have heard nothing but good things about these bar and cant wait for them to finish the DA bars. I have been told they will be done by the end of the week and then my payment goes out.
Contact Steve at Stealthmode Performance for pricing but I believe they are being offered at an introductory price of $325 shipped You can also PM Stealthmode if you are on HomeMadeTurbo.com (but I’m sure you already know about these if you are).
Here is the feature list -
L-con traction bars are engineered for street and strip use which result in better 60ft times, increased traction, and elimination of wheel hop. The quality of L-con traction bars are based on:
-Full chromoly construction
-All chromoly heim joints (L-con is the only one)
-Fully researched and developed to perfect suspension geometry, leaving ZERO bind on the radius arms.
i got a good look at these at prostreetimport a while ago. all i can add is they look well built and their customers are very satisified with their eg/ek/dc setups.
“-Fully researched and developed to perfect suspension geometry, leaving ZERO bind on the radius arms.” -in other words, computer/CAD designed.
Considering the R&D and published testing that we’ve seen from the Full Race units, these LCON pieces pale in comparison. While there are a lot of reviews and feedback on HT about these, not one of those is from a member whose opinion matters to me or I give creditbility to.
I remember posting in the LCON thread on HT and got tons of heat for requesting actual hard data on the bars rather than word-of-mouth bullshit. Remember, there’s a lot of pretty parts out there, but that doesn’t mean they’re worth a shit…
Full Race had a lot of data about stress testing and such. Also, their welds are second to none and they are a very respected name in the import industry. LCON has made all there claims with NO proof other than what they say. It doesn’t bind? Great, but what makes it so it binds in first place? How did they alleviate this? If it doesn’t affect geometry, then give me some diagrams that prove this. I’m all for a good product at a great price, but I need the information that I’m given to have some substance behind it.
Most people that are buying this don’t really understand the intended purpose on that this piece serves on the DA/EF chassis. It seems the majority is purchasing these soley for clearence issues, wheel hop reduction or even more absurd, weight reduction. Most don’t realize that this is a CRUCIAL part of the overall structure of the front suspension, engine cradle and it ultimately ties the entire front end of the car together. A little discretion is needed on a product like this and from a company this new. We all know what can happen to a poorly made crossmember (i.e. Place Racing’s snap in half piece of shit), and Place Racing brought us nearly the same amount of info about their product as LCON.
Simply put, LCON has very little history, and similar to Omni (though the founder did have a lot of background), everyone is quick to jump on the bandwagon because of the price. It’s hard to say how well this stuff is made, but it also could be of outstanding quality. But when you’re dealing with such a crucial part of the car, doing your homework is requisite if you want a safe part that will actually improve performance…
What are the Full(ass) Raping bars up to these days…$450? There stuff is good, no doubt…but R&D gets better with time at any company.
No one is claiming these are on par with the Full Race pieces (at least I am not in here), no one needs to, but these are a QUALITY piece with an EXCEPTIONAL price, comparitively.
You’re comparing apples to oranges and making up your own bandwagon crap…this isnt Honda-Tech my friend and I know you got the hookup and F-R treated you well but please keep the negative shit talking to a minimum. No one is trying to prove/disprove anything here…just open peoples eyes to other products with affordable price tags.
Please, refresh my memory as to what Full Race part that I don’t have that I got a hook up on…
Secondly, if I want your opinion on what I can and can’t type here, I’ll go ahead and give it to you. Thanks for pointing out that this isn’t Honda Tech; you would have never known about LCON had they not have been on there.
And you’re right about one thing, people do need to open there eyes about the parts they put on there car. I’m tired of seeing every two-bit company peddling some new wonder product with absolutely no credibility to the name. I could of sworn this was the PRODUCT REVIEW forum, not the post about a product that doesn’t exist forum. Try and find me a pic of the finalized DA bars and I’ll buy you a Coke. Until then, I think people deserve to hear a bit of reason to go along with the disinformation.
I thought I remember you being one of the first to test the DA bars and leg hump F-R because they let you put them on your car. Pardon me if I am mistaken and have the wrong guy.
I never told you what you could or couldnt post, please read more carefully. Your negative ‘tone’ is absolutely Honda-Techish and unnecessary…keep making an ass of yourself for all I care. And I didnt hear about LCon on Honda-Tech…thanks for telling me where I get my information.
Keep that coke on ICE.
I am by no means a product representative for LCON which means I do not have the technical understanding of the product to its fullest extent. I’ve seen and looked at and read about every bar thats come out of the last year. They are all hype…geometry this, binding that blah blah. None of them got me near excited. If this eliminates wheel hop and keeps the my car stable for street/strip use, then Im happy and not out $450 from my wallet.
If you are so savvy…point out the flaws in these bars instead of trying to create controversy with unproven slander.
i think the point he was trying to make was the proof of exact suspension geometry. i wouldnt even know where to start and what to look for really, other than the radius rod being in the same locations as stock.
you’re right though, most people want them for clearance for turbo setups and wheel hop. they do their job, and the price is decent, and they’ve been getting a good rep so i do see this thread as a positive review.
for the more serious roadracer/autox/suspension minded person, then that info would be important for them. there could be geometry differences we don’t know about. as to what degree, that’s the current mystery. for their current target audience, the above seems to be good enough.
btw, i’ve seen FR’s freehand drawings of binding situations, but not engineering diagrams. are they available? either way, i’d probably be as lost as when looking at shock dynos…
im with you i cought heat cuz i wanted to buy, but they, LOUIE, would never give me a price or a date that they would be available. now price is sitting at almost 5large for DAs while 299 for eg,ek,dc. i did pick up the very first produced z10 bar from a great member… (quickda6), and i absolutly love it… i believe fullrace and z10 were both designed by the same cat… could be wrong. and one more thing. all the nut riders of L-con, are just dicks… all should really peep the HT thread…
you should hold your tongue, as no lcon bar exists at least not for purchase. so no one knows, and im sure no one will. now that is hype. over a year into that shit and what. nothing… just honda tech bs… Lcon :jerkoff:
Well, you’re right…it was supposed to happen (I was promised) and it seems Louie is too busy making roll cages and is perturbed about the fact you have to make a couple extra brackets for the DA.
I too have a set of Z10’s on the way because I cant wait…oh well, such is life.
