making comparisons between different engines

I think there is waaaay to much generalization between “x” motor vs. “y” motor on G2IC. Please next time before we get into another debate please consider the following:

Cost factor: no matter what anyone tells you, everyone has a budget. This is the main reason why out of 10 people here who post about “sleeve” this and “turbo” that, one might actually do it. Also, when comparing a b18a motor to any other motor, you must realize that to use a different motor other than the b18a requires you to purchase another motor(GSR boyz excluded). When factoring hp/$ you have to factor in the cost of the other motor.

Engine swaps: I do not understand why when people swap a b series motor that is somewhat stock into their car when they get dissappointed that it isn’t 10x as fast as their b18a was. A stock b16a, b18c, b17a, or b18a is not that fast relatively to what their potential is. Any of the mentioned motors can be made to outperform the other, however the potential of some of these motors are greater than others given the same modifications and maintenance are performed. Given that said, whether you have the $$ to find that potential of the motor you just swapped is another issue alltogether.

Comparison between different setups: to generalize a particular motor setup simply from your experience, be it personal or not, is illogical. Every setup is different. I can almost assure you that no two hybrid engine setups on this board are the same. From the installation, to the maintenance, to the modifications performed, every setup is different. To say that “x” motor is better than “y” motor simply cuz your bro put $hitloads of money into his setup that would make ANY motor scream, is illogical.

Personal Preference: To compare a b series non vtec motor to a b series vtec motor opinions excluded is tricky. Yes, in stock form the non vtec motor will generally have a torque curve that is more friendly to everyday driving where the vtec motor will have a hp curve more suitable for high rpm usage. And yes it is possible to get the best of both worlds with a “hybrid” setup. What too many people forget, though, is the “best” setup is relative to the owner of the vehicle. It does not really matter what someone else thinks about your setup, and if it does you need to check your ego. If you’re modifying your car for anyone else but yourself you’re a friggin poser. But on that same note of personal preference, don’t take your opinion of what is better and try and turn it into what is better because there is no better or worse when it comes to this. There are many ways to reach the finish line, regardless of the car or the race. IMHO the best thing anyone can do when looking to modfying their vehicle is to keep an open mind. As much as this is about what you want, you can learn alot from others’ previous experience and better understand what it is you really want from your car. However, when doing this. please follow the above guidelines, and remember that opinions are just that, opinions- and no matter how great you think one setup is from description, there’s always something you dont know about it that either isnt being said, or hasnt happened yet.

my :rant: for the day- oh and ps for the love of God :search: every once in a while- i think im gonnna make a thread linking repetitive ?'s to the threads that best answer them. As much as I feel this shouldnt be necessary, it obviously is or else someof us will continue to “annoy” you with the search smiley.

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nuff said

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if only more people had as much common sense as you. It still baffles me that people think things are so cut and dry, so simple and that there is always a best or a simple yes/no answer.

What bugs me about some people on the board is that they are so friggin sensative! Lighten up! Especially if you asked a question and someone answers it and you get butt hurt and pissy with your reply. We all want to know what is good and best, but don’t hate…period

:gun: my head when I come in this forum lately :gun2:

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:clap: :up: AMEN! The world is vast and so is the mind …apply that to your life, and you will be satisfied in all you do :bow:

What bugs me about this board lately is when you ask a simple question that someone who knows the answer could answer in one sentence and the first couple reply’s you get are: :search:

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hey gen2 did’nt you mean like this :

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i know i dont’ post a whole heck of a lot on here but the search does work quite well and if you look hard enough you will find what you are looking for …Oh and another thing is …don’t shoot me for this but there are other message boards with info on them …

Originally posted by venom363
[B]What bugs me about this board lately is when you ask a simple question that someone who knows the answer could answer in one sentence and the first couple reply’s you get are: :search:

:gun: :search: :gun2: [/B]

The only reason people get that is because they dont search. I mean, its not hard to click on that big flashing image called search up at the top. Almost all normal questions you may have have probably been answered in the past.

Whats the point of having two identical posts that say the same thing?

Originally posted by venom363
[B]What bugs me about this board lately is when you ask a simple question that someone who knows the answer could answer in one sentence and the first couple reply’s you get are: :search:

:gun: :search: :gun2: [/B]

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just check out my post, bwahahahahaha! :slight_smile:

:werd: - gen2ls/vtec

Its all about Personal Preference stop and think about how much money you wanna drop into your car. Stop and think about it.
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I think if everyone upon initially entering this site went through the Articles/Teg Tips forum, Archives forum, and Teg Tips Scroll down, thoroughly and completely, it would save everyone including themselves a lot of trouble.

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