my Da wont start. turn the key no sound. only way push start and jump the starter

my Da wont start. turn the key no sound. only way is to push start or jump the starter( wire from battery stright to the stater). the starter is good, alternator brand new. the wire to the starter is getting no power. the car does not make a sound if i turn the key. i have seen post on grounding issues, but i need pics to guide me to where the grounds are. has anyone has this problem and fixed it?

one of two things, 1: your Starter Relay is located up underneath the passenger side of the dashboard. if youre not hearing a “click” when you turn the key, it could be this.
OR 2: your Clutch Interlock Switch. that switch determines wether or not the clutch pedal is depressed so you wont start the car in gear. there will be a small hole where a rubber foot was in the clutch pedal linkage arm that would close against the Interlock Switch. take a look on the floor of your drivers side. there may be a little peice of rubber. that piece of rubber fills the hole that initiates the Switch. the switch itself could be bad, or the little rubber foot could have popped out of the hole. once you get the relay to click (listen on the passenger side, its very distinct)

Are you sure the starter isn’t bad and you’re just bypassing the solenoid? Which wire is not getting power? If you power the starter and it works then the ground is working.

could also be ignition switch

i got a new starter. and it did the same thing thats why i said that.

Oh ok so I’ll assume you mean there is no power to the small terminal on the starter. So as the others said it could be clutch interlock, starter relay or ignition switch.

problem solved it was the clutch interlock switch. the rubber is gone. thanks guys for the help.:dance:

[QUOTE=OMG Its Weasel;2170193]one of two things, 1: your Starter Relay is located up underneath the passenger side of the dashboard. if youre not hearing a “click” when you turn the key, it could be this.
OR 2: your Clutch Interlock Switch. that switch determines wether or not the clutch pedal is depressed so you wont start the car in gear. there will be a small hole where a rubber foot was in the clutch pedal linkage arm that would close against the Interlock Switch. take a look on the floor of your drivers side. there may be a little peice of rubber. that piece of rubber fills the hole that initiates the Switch. the switch itself could be bad, or the little rubber foot could have popped out of the hole. once you get the relay to click (listen on the passenger side, its very distinct)[/QUOTE]

I am have the same trouble. Sorry I dont mean to thread jake on ya but the cis is bypassed and the rubber piece broke that is why I bypassed it but still nothing, turn the key everything comes on but the starter doesn’t make a sound. I can hear the starter relay clicking so that is good. I have not had trouble starting the car untill today. I can pop the clutch and it will start, but not other wise. I will check the grounds on wed, but I dont thing they are the problem. (could be wrong though) any other ideas?, I have been all over the internet and tried the ideas that I have read so far. Again the starter is doing nothing, I have never had a starter just die and not show signs of it going out. Worked great and now nothing. I am sorry for thread jaking but I didnt want to make another thread about the same thing again.

With the cis’s rubber piece missing wouldn’t it start any ways because it is not pressed when the clutch is pushed and when the rubber piece is missing it still is not pressed in. I see it would not let the car start with the clutch not pressed because the rubber piece is pressing the button in. But with it missing? Hope you see what I mean.

thanks for your time

Kris

the rubber piece makes contact with the CIS only when you press the clutch pedal in. if you press the pedal without the rubber piece, it will not engage the CIS and will not start the car. i thought i bypassed my CIS as well when i had starter issues and didnt even notice the hole where the rubber went. i got an entire new starting system (starter, relay, CIS, fuses, etc etc etc) before i realized that a: the CIS doesnt really bypass by just sticking a jump lead in the plug and b: that rubber foot solved everything. i put all my original starter system back in to see if thats what it was, and it was. a rubber foot cost me almost 200 dollars to diagnose. dont follow my footsteps, just replace the rubber foot (like 1 dollar at acura) and see.
if that doesnt work, bypass the starter relay anyway by jumping the starter with a live 12v lead from the battery (you can use car jumper cables here). there are threads with pictures as to where you need to jump the wires. if you do that (make sure the car in in neutral) and the car doesnt start, it could be the starter solenoid or the starter itself (either way, i would replace the whole thing) have you tried hitting the starter with something, maybe a broom handle? sometimes they seize up unexpectedly and need a little bashing to free them up.

[QUOTE=OMG Its Weasel;2172761]the rubber piece makes contact with the CIS only when you press the clutch pedal in. if you press the pedal without the rubber piece, it will not engage the CIS and will not start the car. i thought i bypassed my CIS as well when i had starter issues and didnt even notice the hole where the rubber went. i got an entire new starting system (starter, relay, CIS, fuses, etc etc etc) before i realized that a: the CIS doesnt really bypass by just sticking a jump lead in the plug and b: that rubber foot solved everything. i put all my original starter system back in to see if thats what it was, and it was. a rubber foot cost me almost 200 dollars to diagnose. dont follow my footsteps, just replace the rubber foot (like 1 dollar at acura) and see.
if that doesnt work, bypass the starter relay anyway by jumping the starter with a live 12v lead from the battery (you can use car jumper cables here). there are threads with pictures as to where you need to jump the wires. if you do that (make sure the car in in neutral) and the car doesnt start, it could be the starter solenoid or the starter itself (either way, i would replace the whole thing) have you tried hitting the starter with something, maybe a broom handle? sometimes they seize up unexpectedly and need a little bashing to free them up.[/QUOTE]

Ok thanks a million

kris

mikel58 your where right the cis was the problem i jumped the wrong plug. Man that thing is a bit#@ to get to. I put the car in neutral and pressed the button in on the cis and boom it fired right up.

thanks again for your help,

Kris