Hey wassup guys … I live in cali and damn it is hot out here.Unfortunately i dont have a cold ac…How would i recharge my 1993 teg’s ac? pics would help in identifying the parts…
would i use th r13a recharge cans or somethin else?
Unless you’ve already switched to R134, you’re going to need to take it to a shop and let them do the conversion and then you can recharge it all you want later down the road.
Unless you’ve already switched to R134, you’re going to need to take it to a shop and let them do the conversion and then you can recharge it all you want later down the road.
Also, a Helm manual will help you greatly. [/B]
Actually, you do NOT need to convert it first. Just get the kit from www.autorerigerants.com and you will have all you need. It converts the fittings to the R-134 style, and gives you R-12a “freon” to put in your EXISTING R-12 SYSTEM.
r12 cannot be bought without a ‘licsense’. whatever they call it.
all you have to do to switch to 134 is change the oil. which really comes down to having the system sucked down then replace the drier (always a good thing to do) and add about 4-6 oz’s of oil then charge it.
Originally posted by night
[B]r12 cannot be bought without a ‘licsense’. whatever they call it.
all you have to do to switch to 134 is change the oil. which really comes down to having the system sucked down then replace the drier (always a good thing to do) and add about 4-6 oz’s of oil then charge it. [/B]
Or you could get the R-12a (note the “a”)… it’s a freon alternative, and is even colder and safer and non-environmentally harmful.
Screw having to change the oil (do u know what is involved in that? Complete dissassembly of the entire A/C system! No thanks!). Just get the kit, drop it in, and voila, working A/C.
Trust me, this stuff works. Hell, there’s a thread on here somewhere where over 10 people attest to using this and having no problems whatsoever. :search: I’m one of them.
Or you could get the R-12a (note the “a”)… it’s a freon alternative, and is even colder and safer and non-environmentally harmful.
Screw having to change the oil (do u know what is involved in that? Complete dissassembly of the entire A/C system! No thanks!). Just get the kit, drop it in, and voila, working A/C.
Trust me, this stuff works. Hell, there’s a thread on here somewhere where over 10 people attest to using this and having no problems whatsoever. :search: I’m one of them.
hey hate to burst your bubble guys, but its illegal to mix any freon, whether it be a substitue of r12 or r134a. Its a 25,000 fine as well as some time in jail, not to mention no ones going to want to work on ur a/c system since it will contaminate their equipment. Now the real way to do it is to have ur system “evacuated” of the remaining freon, have system flushed out to remove remaining oils and then add the compatible oil and then recharge with what ever freon u use. Also those r12 substitue are illegal to put in cars in the USA. Not sure about Canada but its legal to buy it and own but illegal to put in ur car. Its just messed up.
Originally posted by 91integra hey hate to burst your bubble guys, but its illegal to mix any freon, whether it be a substitue of r12 or r134a. Its a 25,000 fine as well as some time in jail, not to mention no ones going to want to work on ur a/c system since it will contaminate their equipment. Now the real way to do it is to have ur system “evacuated” of the remaining freon, have system flushed out to remove remaining oils and then add the compatible oil and then recharge with what ever freon u use. Also those r12 substitue are illegal to put in cars in the USA. Not sure about Canada but its legal to buy it and own but illegal to put in ur car. Its just messed up.
I don’t think it’s illegal to install anywhere, seeing as it s environmentally friendly (especially compared to “real” freon). Besides, who the hell is gonna catch you, and seriously, why would it be legal to sell but not use? Doesn’t make any sense.
Anyhow, I’m sticking with my guns here and telling whomever wanted to know, that R-12a from online is great stuff, has the approval of many members here and on other car clubs (Porsche for one!), and works fine (Better than regular freon). :defend:
well i don;t know if its illegal to use in Canada, but over in the US it is, cause most of those r12 substitutes are flamable. Also hell, why buy freon when u could just go out and fill your system with propane. Propanes compatible with r12 as well and works just as good as r12, but you don;t see peeps using it. Some r 12 substitutes are a blend of r134a with propane and other flammable gasses. As far as being illegal, its just illegal to use in automobiles but not other refrigeration units. Just something to think about.
I guess I’ll direct this question to curls, since you sound like the resident A/C recharging guru. I have searched :search: and haven’t found conclusive answers.
Is evacuation necessary from a functionality standpoint? I mean if I don’t get the existing R-12 removed and I recharge it using Freeze - 12 will I run into major problems later? I’m not really concerned with the legality at this point.
I noticed that the quick recharge kit does not come with ester oil. Is this necessary? Should I order it in addition to the kit?
Does the kit come with good instructions?
Thanks for you help. Hopefully I can arrive at work not drenched in sweat…
#1: Yes, but only if you have freon left in the system. To check, simply remove the cap from the low-pressure side (between your radiator and header, right in the middle – looks like a large tire-inflator cap thingy). Using a long screwdriver, press the needle down. If freon comes out, you’ll know because it’s cold. If a clear oil comes out, freon is no longer in your system. If you get freon coming out, it should only do this for a few seconds, as you have minimal amounts left. Don’t worry about the ozone you tree hugger. And no, it’s not legal per se, to let Freon into the atmosphere, but whatever.
#2: No, not necessary as long as you don’t let all of the oil escape when releasing the freon. (which would take like 5 minutes of pressing the needle to do, so no, you do not need extra oil at all).