starting problem.....

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i have a '93 gsr w/ a b16 swap. when i did the swap it started doing this thing where sometimes it wouldnt start, it wouldnt even turn over. it would just click onthe inside of the car. but now, it wont start at all. i changed the starter. and for about 3 days it started up fine every time and now it wont start again. i put another main relay in and it didnt make a difference. so i need some help.

I CAN STILL PUSH START IT AND IT WILL RUN/DRIVE

question: if the ignition is bad can u still push start it?

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skank2

question: if the ignition is bad can u still push start it?
Yes

Most likey the switch is bad.

There is a good thread on this the info you need is on page two.

http://www.g2ic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150580&page=2

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I agree, but before you go and spend money on a new one check to see if that is the problem:idea:

All you need is a test light, the ign. switch harness runs from the ign. switch to the fuse box, [under dash] if I remember, there are two plugs, one plugs into the fuse box and the other is plugged into another plug and “clipped” to the fuse box, the first thing to check is 12V+ input, [should be OK, as the car runs] it is the a white or white/black lead, [hot at all times]
Next is the ign.1 and ign.2, [should also be good] ign.1-black/yellow, ign.2- blue/white, [both are hot in run, ign. switch in run position].
Now the one that may be the problem, the starter lead it is black/white, [hot in start, ign. switch in start position], if you have power on that line when cranking to start, and motor does not turn over, then the ign. switch is not the problem. 94

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My 92 integra had the same problem. Im assuming the problem is that you have a short. Check to see if you have power going to the starter signal fuse with a test light.(inside) If not i know a way you can start it witout pushing the clutch in and most importantly without push-starting it. There is a starter relay that you can bypass. It is inside the dash. Location: remove your stereo and the center console. The relay is clipped to the metal within the console. Its right of the stereo and upwards. It has a large black/red wire leading to it. Remove the relay and install a switch. This switch is like a killswitch. with it off it will not crank. but flicking the switch you install will allow the car to crank without pushing in the clutch but just make sure you dont have it in gear. On the connector for the starter relay there is four inserts but you only need two of those inserts to allow it to crank. im not certain though on which two inserts but you can easily figure it out by playing the guessing game. just try different combinations. On mine i just ran a wire from each of the two inserts and connected a switch to the two wires. Trust me your car will start.

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Will a starter relay out of a 1990 work on a 1992?

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It should, but why not check and see if it’s the problem?

It is an easy test, unplug the black/white wire on the starter solenoid put a multimeter or test light on it and have someone step on clutch and turn ign. switch to start, if you get 12V+ on the black/white wire the relay is good, you can also use a jumper from the batt. pos.(+) to the terminal on the starter solenoid where the black/white wire was plugged in, [just touch the jumper to the terminal] make sure car is out of gear, if motor turns over, the problem may be the starter relay, but could be the clutch interlock switch or the ign. switch.:whisper:94

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starting problem

hey i have a starting problem aswell. When i first hop in it for the day it starts perfectly but then after driving to the corner store turning it off. It wont start again till like 5 turns sometimes more? Im not sure what it is i have a imobiliser and central locking. Im pretty sure its to do with the electrics.

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What do you mean “imobiliser”, what kind of immobilizer, ign. or starter disable, is it part of an alarm, [make and model]?

When you say “starting problem” what does that mean?

1- The motor will turn over, [crank] but not start.

2- The motor will not even turn over, [crank].

What year is your g2?:hmm:94

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It turns over just doesnt start. The year is 1992. I think its an aftermarket immobiliser central locking thing

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OK, well if it turns over but does not start we know that the immobilizer does not have a defective starter kill, [if it has starter kill] it could be a defective ign. kill.

To troubleshoot what is wrong you will need a multimeter or at least a test light.

You can start by just using your ears to see/hear if it’s a fuel problem.

When you first turn on the ign. to the run position, [not start] you should hear the PGM-FI Main Relay “click” on, [it is located under dash, drivers side, just to the left of steering column] you will also hear the fuel pump “prime” the fuel system, [raise fuel pressure to operational level] the pump will only run for a few sec., then you will hear the PGM-FI Main Relay “click” off and the fuel pump will stop running.
So the next time your car will not start turn ign. switch to run and listen for the fuel pump, if you can’t hear the pump priming, the fuel pump may be going or it could be the PGM-FI Main Relay.
To test which one it is, a “smack test” can be done, remove rear seat, [bottom] remove fuel tank access panel, [it will expose fuel pump access panel]. remove lower dash trim, [drivers side] and locate PGM-FI Main Relay, it looks like this… http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/acura-integra-90-93-main-fuel-relay-main-relay-RZ-0067_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33557QQihZ003QQitemZ130051208389QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW#ebayphotohosting
The next time car will not start, leave ign. switch in run and “smack” the relay, if the fuel pump still does not come on, “smack” the fuel pump access panel.

If the fuel pump starts priming when you smack the relay, you will need a new one, if the fuel pump starts priming when you smack the fuel pump access panel you need a new fuel pump.

Both the PGM-FI Main Relay and the fuel pump are a common “intermittent” no start problem, that is to say they hardly ever just stop working but become increasingly intermittent, until they finally fail completely.

I drove my 94LS for a month with a failing relay, having to “smack” it more often as the time went by, and I drove the car to and from work for a weak with the fuel pump failing, had the back seat out and access panel off and had a long screw driver on pass. seat so I could reach around and “smack” the fuel pump access panel.

Although this may not be the problem it is the most common and the one I would look at first.:cross:94