strut rod bushing question

i read this and basicly the same thing said on a few sites

"Worn strut rod bushings will cause excessive caster change and make the car want to change lanes when the brakes are applied. Poly-urethane strut rod bushings, with there increased density will not allow castor change. "

how many of you beleve this is true?.. because my car does randomly pull under hard stopping and sometimes it dont… im thinking it could be that since the front brakes are all brand new… unless the rear calipers are sticking

Are you sure that was refering to hondas or similar style suspension?

If they were worn enough, it would just cause some play between the rod and the bushing. But i don’t see how it is possible to get allot of wear on those bushings. Caster will not be affected by the coilover assembly because the suspension geometry is controlled with the control arms mounted to the chassis.

they say it right next to a picture of a 93 honda civic suspension diagram… so my guess is it is true for hondas… something is making my brakes pull randomly to eather side… and the whole front brake system is brand new… so i know it cant be a brake part… we will know after i change them if its 100% true or not

yea I have this big problem with the handling of my car too
it changes lanes under braking, and when i yank the wheel left or right it feels like the car is bending in the middle. It is very dangerous to drive fast around a corner and either brake or make a slight movement of the steering wheel cause the back will come out!!!

I have bilstein shocks all round lowerd on pro1 coilovers
17 inch enkei RP01’s, nolthane rear trailing arm bushes and lower control arm bushes.

Have you had the alignment checked lately? That sounds like the toe in the rear is out of spec if the back end wants to rotate, maybe the front toe also, and negative camber will further enhance these symptoms.

yeah i have had about 3 alignments in the past

I will book anther one soon, each time it doesn’t fix it

I have like 1 deg camber in front and about 2 and rear

for some reason my rear left wheel is leaning over far my than the rear right

how is this possible?

i know my car is probaly slightly out of alignment… nothing major tho because all tire wear to the eye is the same

one bushing on one side may be mashed more than the other causing problems… it is posable a mashed bushing will cause angles to change

no, a “mashed” strut rod bushing will not. Our shocks are not locating members of the suspension and does not affect alignment specs.

bottom in the middle

its not posable for that bushing to get mashed towards the inside?.. which would cause the bottom of the wheel to go towards the inside?

because on my car i can move the wheel front and back and it moves in slightly when u push in… the bushing is that messed up… isnt when the wheel moves changign camber or something like that?

dude you don’t get it, the shocks in our cars have nothing to do with the alignment, so you could have the most fucked up bushings ever on both ends of your shocks and it’s still going to drive straight.
what you reading on other sites deals with McPherson strut style suspentions.

im not talking about the strut/shock bushings… im talking about the bushing thats in the middle of the lower control arm… wouldnt it seem reasonable if you goto stop quick and both wheels move back that the wheels would point out a very small amount (like 1mm) which would cause pull on both sides and what side the car pulls to depends on which one moves more?

i dont know why the call the thing a strut bushing… IT DOESNT ATTACH TO THE STRUT!!

but thats what its called… know what your talking about before u say its on the strut

its the bushing in the middle of the lower control arm… the big one

Strut Rod Bushings otherwise known as Radius Rod Bushings.

and yes, if they are worn,
it will affect you steering/stopping.

atleast somebody wants to say the truth and not just act like everything i say is wrong

K can someone circle exactly which bushing we are talking about. If it has nothing to do with the strut rod or even the strut then wtf is with that name???

Not sure, but Honda calls it a Radius Rod.
(the rod between the f. cross member and the lower arm)

So, either an American car term or aftermarket, it confuses people…
I’m used to it… I still have shops calling for prices on “spindles”… :crazy:

energy suspensions calls it that… i didnt know the real name of what honda calls it

the strut rod bushing is really the radius rod bushing? I thought the strut rod bushings were the 2 bushings in the top hat of each shock.

if he’s talking about the radius rod bushings (the bushings located in the front crossmember) then yes that could definitely have an effect on caster.

those are just strut bushings… no idea what a strut rod bushing really is… probaly something custom racecars or gm’s have

honda does call that a strut rod bushing on their older cars. i will be installing my new es strut rod bushings today, because i can pull on it and move it back and forth at least a half inch on the right side, which is the direction my car pulls when braking.

and the parts stores can’t find that part no matter what you call it. that’s why i went with energy suspension… plus the nearest dealership is about 100 miles away.

worn radius rod bushings will definitely affect your caster under braking/acceleration. you might even hear a little clunking sound if they’re worn enough.