suspension suggestions please

when i bought my cheap ass coilovers, there wasn’t any mention about spring rates- i don’t even know if any of em’ are different from the others. I also notice now that most(if not all) of the springs sold on ebay don’t mention the spring rates. is there a way to find out. I assume it’s pretty important. I think i’m gonna junk em’, and buy some nice shocks, and a new set of springs with my income tax refund. Also, can anyone suggest a good set of shocks for me. i’ve heard all the brand names i think, and hear about yellow’s and blues, etc. which ones are good for me. i don’t autox or anything, just want the most comfortable lowered ride i can get, or the best ones for perfomance.(lifetime warrenty, and/or rebuildable would be nice too).
Thanks

Brian

Custom spring rate GCs and Koni Yellows. Many more will suggest this setup too. It’s considered the best “budget” suspension setup.

I found some tanabe springs(2 inch drop) for 150 bucks. i was thinkin’ of goin’ with these. I’m planning on droppin’ around 600 for the strut/spring assembly. I’m hopin’ this will get me a decent ride. I don’t really care for coilovers anymore. i never adjust mine, and if i did, i’d have to get the car aligned again. But i’ve also heard that springs possibly won’t drop the car evenly. I don’t know the validity of this, but i would like to have it cleared up. Also, are the yellows koni’s best? thanks for the input.

I think that everyone pretty much agrees that Koni Yellows are the best around.

Before you get th eTanabe springs, find out th espring rates front and rear, this will play a large part in the stiffness/ comfort of your suspension.

Hey 92RS,

You wrote;
I" also notice now that most(if not all) of the springs sold on ebay don’t mention the spring rates. is there a way to find out. I assume it’s pretty important. "

Not unless they are marked with numbers or you know the manufacture and what vehicle they were produced for. The only way to measure them is to remove them from your car and measure their displacement per known weight. If they are linear springs, the displacement will be constant for a known weight. If they are progressive the displacement will change per known weight. Usually you can tell the difference just viewing them, as the coils will vary over the length of the spring.

this is all very helpful info guys. I guess i’ll start checkin’ out some info on the yellows.

what spring rates does anyone recomend. i guess this will be kinda hard for people to explain, but i have no idear what rates i should go with, so anyone with experience with a few different sets, or just gen. knowledge about this, please help me out.

Thanks,

Brian

Well, the rates that I am going to run in the future are roughly 400/400 or 375/375 Ground Controls with a Progress 22mm rear sway (already installed). This will provide a pretty stiff ride on the street, but will have very neutral handling with the solid rear sway. Right now I ma H&R Sports with 340/186 rates. The ride is pretty decent on the street with Tokico HPs. In fact, the Tokico seemed to be very well matched to these springs. However, the rear is simply too soft for my tastes and the car understeers too much. Now the rear sway will counteract a lot of so we’ll see how this works out at the autocrosses before I buy GCs. I also fear the Tokicos will be overpowered those rates.

Only time will tell I suppose. Keep in my mind that most of the stiffness you personally feel over bumps correlates to the stiffness of the rear springs.

i think theyre usually 450f/350rear

i still dont understand why people suggest the gc/koni setup when you can get full systems for a bit more? unless you can only afford one at a time that is

Hey XDEep,

You wrote,

“i still dont understand why people suggest the gc/koni setup when you can get full systems for a bit more?”

Please enlighten us on these full systems which offer the flexibility of spring rates, ease of service, replacement parts availability, known performance history, upgrade ability and low price of the GC/Koni combination.

What is going on here who moved this to product reviews? Since when did suspension discussion belong in product reviews?

eibach pro kit and kybs werked for me no bounce comfortable

DB2-R81 i have no idea. i just figured full systems were super leet thats why i was asking

imo a full system is better than coiloversm as well!good shcoks and coilovers make my stomach turn it kinda like…crower 403’s with stock retainers and valv covers! It not that you cant do it…but more like you shouldent! but hey it just my opinion!

But i’ve also heard that springs possibly won’t drop the car evenly

I think the main reason for the car not being dropped evenly is due to the weak ass rear swaybar. I had the same problem when I dropped my car with Progress springs. The rear was lower then the front, making the car look ugly. After I installed my 22mm Progress rear sway bar, it made the car stand straight and my suspension tight.:smiley:

Originally posted by GSpeedR
find out th espring rates front and rear, this will play a large part in the stiffness/ comfort of your suspension.

i used to think this also, but if you look at the springrate comparison, the eibachs are pretty high, yet are the softest imo. therefore i would attribute it to manufacturer and model

Originally posted by DB2-R81
[B]Hey XDEep,

You wrote,

“i still dont understand why people suggest the gc/koni setup when you can get full systems for a bit more?”

Please enlighten us on these full systems which offer the flexibility of spring rates, ease of service, replacement parts availability, known performance history, upgrade ability and low price of the GC/Koni combination. [/B]

those are good reasons. so then what are the pros of full systems? obviously not price…

actually the reason i brought it up, the close proximity in price:

gc- 350
koni - 550
=900

full systems- 900-1200+ ?