So people seem to be having slight problems with a headlight being dimmer then the other or having the light not work at all. In this thread,ill show you a little trick that even the manual doesn’t explain.
Now we all know that you should be running the same bulbs in both sides of the lamp right? And never just replace just one bulb right? Well let me explain why you should and shouldn’t.
When you mix up bulb,one might be running hotter then the other,witch can cause a bulb to keep blowing or short the fuse. If you have a blown bulb,its best to go ahead and change them both. If you don’t replace both,you will end up having to keep changing bulbs as one will draw more power then the other.
Now lets say you keep changing bulbs,but that one side does not want to work (OR ITS TO DIM), there is a secret to fixing this.
Lets start with the simple troubleshooting. Check all ground (see pics)
Transmission ground
Valve cover ground
Now if there ok,the next trick is to check these little black box’s located on ether side of the radiator (one for each headlamp). There the main ground for the lamps :stare: Now if there not located next to the radiator,there going to be behind the bumper,so you’ll need to remove it. Take the 10mm bolt off and clean the grounding points. THIS IS THE PART THAT KNOW-ONE KNOWS ABOUT.These ARE NOT relays.G201-G301 The wires are all black with little yellow or white dots on them
pretty sure those black boxes are not for the headlight there for a/c if i recall as i have no black boxes i did a wire tuck an took out a/c black boxes witch are relays
They are for the headlight,yours might be behind the front bumper mounted on the frame. If you unbolt one,the light will not work or it will get dim as hell.
Nope only one relay an that for fogs those relay you speak of (black box) are for the a/c unit you can look in the helms an see it wiring dirgrams do not think they would add things an not put it in there book
So how is it if those are for your headlights like you say how come my lights work just fine an i have no relay to them? An i know i dont because i did a wire tuck on my car my self an i had the front bumper off today to take out the bad battery
These are not relays,there like a grounded resistor or something with 2 wires coming out i think? i have to look again. You’re talking about the 2 relays on the passenger side right? One is for the fan and that other for the AC fan. Trust me man,there for the headlights and might be for some other things as well,but IDK.You might not have it cause the other guy (Felix) cut them off and rewired them.
Ill go take a pic,hold on ok.
Here it is,there are 4 wires to it. Because i run the HIDs,the lamp just shuts off,but if it was an OE bulb it would go dim. I forgot to add that there going to be behind the bumper,i relocated mine so its simple to get to them. And they also can be white and much smaller in size,mine might of been replaced.
well what you have there are relays an yes there are grounding blocks on each side. I do have grounding blccks but do not have the relays you show in the pic …an what you mean the otherguy .(You might not have it cause the other guy (Felix) cut them off and rewired them.
Ill go take a pic,hold on ok.)? you must not no what i have done to my car do you just so you do know I rewired the whole car everthing yes i used oem lhd wiring as well so i do know what i am talking about when i say i dont have thoes relays i can show you pics of thoses all day so make sure when you say my car you know what you are talking about because in this case you did not any ways. I dont have these parts an the helms book does not show them in there wiring dirgram so maybe you have some thing messed up or wired wrong like you said your fogs are
91_LS: How about you NOT make an article thread unless you are sure your info is 100% accurate? Every time you make one of these article threads, it turns into a back and forth squabble about what’s right and what’s wrong when it should be an article/tip. :bang:
those are the ground boxes In the white pic thread i have those but the black boxes he show in his pic is relay i took those out but if im wrong some one tell me an to make it clear i am not try to close his your thread i am just saying i dont have what you have pic. an trying to understand why when mine still work.
91_LS: How about you NOT make an article thread unless you are sure your info is 100% accurate? Every time you make one of these article threads, it turns into a back and forth squabble about what’s right and what’s wrong when it should be an article/tip. :bang:[/QUOTE]
I was 100% accurate Mike,i don’t know what there called,but that do in fact run the headlights. Its not my fault that people never seen this before and want to argue with me on every thread i post,and its always the same guy doing so. I even posted proof pics so there was no arguing. But ill just stop trying to help this site out if you wish,cause every time the same thing happens,and i take the blame,same guy comes in to always show me up,and my threads get locked or i get yield at by you,no biggie.
I would just call it a “Grounding block” but I don’t know what they are actually called.
I have to admit that what you show in the picture looks like a relay. And if it only has 4 wires coming out of it, it probably is just a relay but I can’t tell from the picture for sure. And I don’t remember the ground distribution blocks for my 92 GS-R looking like that, but I also haven’t really paid much attention to the ones in the engine bay.
I have never had a 90-91 Integra. If I could rephrase my statement that you quoted, it would be “They may be in a different place.” Lol.
darussianone has a valid underlying point though, your article is not very clear. I understand that you were able to fix your lights by messing with this “black box” but you need to figure out what it is and why your fix worked before you post up an article about it. Also, you need to be clear that it is not the relay for the A/C fan or all those other relays up there because on my ABS GS-R there were like 8 fucking relays scattered all over the place up there. Shit for ABS, Power steering maybe, A/C for sure and other crap. You need to make sure that people know what you are talking about. If you say “the box that has 8-10 black ground wires going into it” then that works if you have a good picture.
We do appreciate what you are doing, but you need to be a little more meticulous about it or people will get confused later and you may not be around when they start asking what you meant.
G201 (92-93)includes grounds for:
ABS front fail-safe relay
ABS rear fail-safe relay
ABS motor
Right front turn signal light
Right front parking light
Right front side marker light
Right headlight
Right front fog light
Windshield wiper motor
Heater conrtol panel (Fan switch)
S4 switch (yeah, I have no idea what that means)
Daytime running lights relay (Canada)
Radiator fan control module (USA: With A/C)
G301 is as follows:
Left front turn signal light
Left front parking light
Left front side marker light
Lewft headlight
Left front fog light
Windshield washer motor
Rear window washer motor
Brake fluid level switch
Cruise control actuator
Power steering pressure (PSP) switch
And then there is also a connection between G301 and G401 and connected to that ground is all of the stuff in the under-dash fuse/relay box and well, hell, just fucking everything really.
I understand man. Ill go ahead and just let the thread die tho. I can go out and do a little more tracking to see where the wires run to,but i didn’t think it would be such a problem being i made the same threads in 2 different site and one made it in to an article. Most of the people know what box I’m talking about but never did they know it had to do with the headlights.And not one time have i had a problem with people complaining about it.
Maybe someone else would like to make another thread about this little box,cause this needs to be addressed. Thanks for the tips man,but i think I’m done adding on this site,although i do love it, i don’t want to bring misleading tips to it.
[QUOTE=91_LS;2194466] Take the 10mm bolt off and clean the grounding points. THIS IS THE PART THAT KNOW-ONE KNOWS ABOUT.These ARE NOT relays.G201-G301 The wires are all black with little yellow or white dots on them
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Ok is this thread still valid? So cleaning these boxes will fix dimmed lights? My main grounds were replaced not to long ago and I still get dimming headlights when I step on the brakes. When let go of brakes the lights get back to brighter.
So when you say clean the grounding points, where exactly are the points? Do you clean the surface where the box bracket meets the car? Or is it wire related? thanks.
The grounds are pointed out in the pics i took. Clean the surfaces of the box and all grounding wires.
You can also add an extra ground from the battery to the frame.
