In the middle of replacing my starter right now. all was good until i took out my original & noticed it was quite a bit different then my newer one that i just purchased from LsPride who i found on this forum. my tranny is a cable ys1 and the teeth on the original starter has the teeth sticking out about an 1.5 inches and the one i just got the teeth only stick out about .5 inches at the most. the whole part that goes into the tranny is different. i will be able to get photos tomorrow ive only got shitty phone cameras around me right now.
so my question is are different starters required for different trans.? or whats the deal?
thanks in advance
p.s.- i also picked up a haynes manual for the DA tonight. so ive got some reading to do :read:. unfotunatly it doesnt answer this question
As it turns out there a different starters but all I know is that the difference should be between auto or stick shift. Your original is the one most shops were trying to sell me. I actually have the one that you purchased. From what I understand, the one that I have is the odd ball one. All I can say is that, don’t try to use it what so ever. Your original is what I was told to be true for 90-97. I don’t know where you’re from but go to kragen/checkers/schuck and get an autolite starter for $100.00. Autolite isn’t my favorite brand but it is the right price and does have warranty. Just bring a print out from partsamerica.com on the part itself and they’ll price match it.
i dont think they are all swapable. it looks so different its hard to believe. the ys1 is a b16 tranny & mine is cable. im leaning twords i need to find a starter for either of these trannys:
the only diffrence is the collar, which does not interfere with starting as the gear kicks out when it goes to start, so they both end up being in the same position anyway.
and how would it break the teeth off the flywheel? if im understanding your post right, arent you worried about it not contacting the flywheel when you goto start it?
your measurements are comeing from two diffrent places, which is why you have two diffrent measurements. measure from the same place on both starters and you’ll see they are the same except for that collar
not exactly worried about not connecting - but if it were to connect and make a big mess then i would be upset. im mostly worriedied about compatability and function. i want it to work fine with no problems
its funny that u mention measurements because i actually did whip out a measuring tape and compair them. the newer one is actually 3/4 of an inch longer(the whole unit) then the original which i ALMOST had a problem taking out because it was getting close to hitting the motor mount for that side. so with the new one being bigger it may be another issue.
so they are quite different. im getting help from a lot of people but they all either say it works or it doesnt work. and if it works yesss thats awesome… if it doesnt i have to drop more cash twords that when i have other things that need taken care of
thanks for all the help guys. ive got this up on a few other forums and not near as many replies as i got on this one. i really appreciate it
[QUOTE=Local;1742510]not exactly worried about not connecting - but if it were to connect and make a big mess then i would be upset. im mostly worriedied about compatability and function. i want it to work fine with no problems
its funny that u mention measurements because i actually did whip out a measuring tape and compair them. the newer one is actually 3/4 of an inch longer(the whole unit) then the original which i ALMOST had a problem taking out because it was getting close to hitting the motor mount for that side. so with the new one being bigger it may be another issue.
so they are quite different. im getting help from a lot of people but they all either say it works or it doesnt work. and if it works yesss thats awesome… if it doesnt i have to drop more cash twords that when i have other things that need taken care of
thanks for all the help guys. ive got this up on a few other forums and not near as many replies as i got on this one. i really appreciate it
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i see, i must have misunderstood your post about your measurements.
if the whole assembly is too big, then that is a problem, but what i was talking about was from where they mount to the tranny to the end of the gear on the shaft, which should be the same, as long as that measurement, the mounting points, and the electrical connections are the same, i would just slap it in. but that is just me. starters in my experience have always been difficult to put in/take out (except in the 66 ford pickup i had)
okay so the the one i got from LsPride did not bolt up at all. so i picked up another from someone which is from a b16 trans. it bolted up fine & i connected everything fine… but the car will still not turn over. i suppose this could be another bad starter but are there any other things it could be?
make sure to check all your grounds and make sure everything is hooked up properly, if everything is good i would take it back out and jump it from the battery to see if it engages, if not its toast
k well i tried to jump it from the bat and it didnt work. to confirm how to do that just to be sure…
unplug the ignition wire from the starter & keep the ground on the starter
grab a wire & hook it up the port u just removed the ignition wire from & the bat +
if your engine turns over it is NOT your starter.
is that right? if so it is this starter that i just bought that is faulty. i think you were talking about removing it from the tranny & testing it. the working result would be the starter spins/engages. or should just continue to test while inside the trans?
you can test it either way, i’ve jumped starters while still installed and while out.
your starter is toast, if i were you i’d just suck it up and buy a brand new one instead of buying used ones hopeing for a good one, or jump them before you buy them
okay so i just tested all 3 starters and NONE of them worked. what else could this be? would a bad ground cause this? i noticed u said replace your grounds earlier but im not exactly sure how to do that. replace the ground wire from bat to frame & then the one that goes from bat+ to the starter ground?
so just take some sand paper to those points? u know i bet my valve cover ground is covered in paint… would that matter?[/QUOTE]
most people say no, i’ve had it be the cause of problems before, i’d clean it off anyway just because it is suppose to be there and its one more possible cause of your problem
okay so i went to auto zone & tested all 3 starters.
my original worked fine
the Ls one worked fine
the b16 one that bolted onto my tranny did not work however.
so my starter was never the problem. what are some other possibilities? i sanded down my grounds & bat connecters & no difference. i also had my battery tested because i noticed it was oozing some juice from one of the top caps. i am very confused on what this could be
