$5k To Spend? What Shall I Do! :)

Well i am new to this bored i need to get the car to my house before i post a pic of it but i will soon it is sitting at my friends house, i’t a 92 teg ls coupe, the engine is **** and the body needs paint… sooooo i decided to tackle the project for the summer… heres my thoughts and i need help chosing what to get with 5000 dollars… before i start just wanted to let ya know i am doing all the work myself including paint… my paint willl only be about 600 cause i use to work at the paint store and i am good friends with them there, plus im doing all the body work… so here goes
----- b16 ? thats the engine i want but wich 1,2,3???
----- some kind of turbo + intercooler? wich one and how do i know how much power increase i will see? maybe f-max, greddy?
----- zex smart nos system? should i replace anything? internals?
----- if i get turbo what are good bottom end build ups to get? i.e, pistons, rings, rods etc???
----- can i get this engine bored to a 1.8l? or is that a bad choice?
----- wich ecu, harness do i need and whats a good cable tranny to get?

— sorry for the long questions and stuipness but if i dont get the right stuff im gonna be pissed i want all the right parts right when i start to work.,… thanks for the help and i will be posting pics of my progress soon as the car gets here

DAS BOOST!!! :smiley: :smiley: :up:

Try to find a B17A and build it or get a B18C1. Then boost what you got :slight_smile:

why not boost on a b16? remember b18c is gonna run me 3k + then turbo, i will run out of money right? b17? whats the specs on that, i am trying to make the most of my money so you dont think that a bored to 1.8 b16 with pistons and turbo wont be good or is there another reason im not seeing? maybe more tourque in the gsr is that it? dont know, let me know why i should go b18 b17,

oh yeah forgot to tell everyone, im sure i can run 7-8 psi but i wouls like to get around 10-12, what else should be done… this is a daily driven teg too

one thing ive learned is even after i put a budget i always went over it esp after doing the motor what ever you do most liekly your gonna spend more than you thought! just make sure its exactly what you want maybe just do a full b16 with i/h/e!

peace

yeah what i would like to do is b16 complete engine, with maybe gsr tranny, fmax or greddy turbo and zex say 55 shot smart system, the only problem i am having is wich engine b16a1, 2 , or 3… and what ecu wich harness and what axles, i dont want to have to hard wire anything just kinnda plug and go… where i live there is no mechanic that knows hondas so gonna do this myself and i dont feel like having a bunch of down time due to reasearch or waiting for more parts… also i need a cable tranny but i want one that will be cable and doable with turbo… one that will give me good vtec… then add lsd, and maybe final drive or something… thats what im trying to figure out… i aslo want a turbo that is capable of 20lbs boost cause i plan on rebuilding the whole block and head… but 10-12 psi on street… more comments would be great

were are you getrting the engine from

dont know where im gonna get the engine from, i want to get the jdm b16a but im not sure i think it is b16a1 if im right, im going to do some searching for somewhere with half way decent shipping time in know that cause i move in 11 weeks and want to get it done. i might check out thepartstrader and see if someone has one, if i cant find on then i will go with the usdm b16a2 or 3,

What’s wrong with the B18 in it? If it’s just blown, like needs new rings, head gasket, etc, why not just build that up? It’s already got 1.8l, and you don’t really need vtec to turbocharge or anything. If it were me, I’d have GEM sleeve the block, get some eagle rods (or some other decent forged rod), get some decent forged pistons,rings,pins,etc (J&E, etc), MAYBE lower the compression, get a fully programmable ecu (zdyne or hondata probably), new injectors, adjustable fpr, maybe have a little headwork done (springs, etc), get the crank micropolished and everything dynamically balanced, and replace all the bearings and most of the seals. Then I’d just slap a decent turbo/intercooler on there and start boosting away, and take it to a dyno and get everything tuned. Just what I’d do though, and I’m no expert or anything. Probably run over 5k for all that though, but you could potentially make some serious, semi-reliable power.

yeah im sure all that would be sweet to do but like i said if you even ask shops around here about **** like that they will give you that very confused look, thats why im looking for more of a straight forward swap, my engine is not blown or anything but it will need all internals replaced, the person who owned it before me never changed the oil tune-up so on and so on, just not worth it to me, but what has been crossing my mine is this, how bout usdm b16 from 93-95 del sol vtec, type r head 90-93 gsr tranny with lsd and final drive? then sleeve/bore it to 1.8 better pistons + rods? dont know wich pistons or rods to use with turbo but will find out, all that should bolt up, i mean seeing im getting it bored i minus well by the head and block seperate so i dont have to do the extra labor right? thats my thought lmk what ya think about that, shouldnt run me that much… just dont knnow if a itr head will bolt up with a b16 without mods?

you see thats all cool that you want a b16 turbo or whatever but if you look at the things your listing and the fact you want it to be able to hold 20psi your looking at more than 5k alone on the engine that doesnt include external things like paint job rims what have you! plus after a turbo comes tunning an maintanence so do your homework and do some research and ill bet you find out whats right for your budget!:up:

yeah with the 20psi deal thats just something i sit at home and dream about doing. i am going to do it but thats way down the line… im hoping that my last post with the b16 block, itr head and gsr tranny will do me justice for alittle while… does anyone know if these will bolt up perfect?

---- usdm b16a block
---- itr head
---- 90-93 gsr tranny?

that will work you see i have an itr block with a b16 head and a 92 gsr tranny! works sir why u ask because bseries heads, blocks and trannies are all interchangeable!:up: hope this helps

wow it didnt even cross my mind to do a itr block on b16 head!:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: , thats making me think! maybe a itr block and ctr head will do fine, well im glad they all bolt up i just need to get the old engine out and do some painting then i will be ordering… by the way, wich ecu and harness should i look at? and any axle difference… i need to know for these 2 swaps wich ecu,harness and axles to get

  1. b16 block
    90-93 sr tranny
    itr head

  2. itr block
    b16/ctr head
    90-93 gsr tranny

it should be fine with my stocks right? lmk

but one more thing too, a itr is 1.8 and b16 is 1.6 so the head off one and the block off the other will still match up perfectly???

Some MR2’s are around 5k…mmmmm

yes they will match up perfectky b16b head would be tight but hella expensive! and an itr block is nice very rare but you can get the same perfomance out of other vtec blocks just got ta have high comp pistons and your set my friend! ecu ways if yours in a 92-93 a p61 from agsr will work or a p-28 chipped to mugen specs would be better 9200 redline!:smiley:

Why would you put on a turbo, keep the boost levels moderate, and then add N2O?

Don’t do both, you’re just asking for complications. Keep a turbo and crank up the boost when you want that N2) effect.

I also suggest to build your current B18a, which will cost you less money from your turbo project anyway. You’ll have the money to do it right.

i was thinking about that over the weekend and did find out that i am a asshole, like you said why not rebuild the current block + head, get a better tranny than the one i have and add turbo, ?? yeah i know wasnt thinking at the time, as for the n2o thing, i have always wanted nos but havent had a chance to get it… how bout i run moderate boost and n20 then keep building away at the motor to make for more boost and more nos!!! twice the boost?, what kinnda compression pistons should i be looking at to run turbo??? anyone know?

somewhere in the range of 8:5 to 1