Did you say three clicks? I didn’t know that. I usually hear only one click. Thats if I don’t turn over the engine yet. (lights on the interior a such) I hear a priming sound then following a “click” sound.
You seem more of a guru on this. Can you enlighten me more? I have that problem like the OP.[/QUOTE]
mfr… u might hear it as more of 2 beeps and then a click. but in reality its really the mfr making 3 clicks. other noises are also occurring at the same time (like seatbelts warning chime or something if there actually is one).
u should hear a click after about 3 seconds. if u hear that click, then u have a good mfr. u also said that u hear the priming of the fuel pump. then u have a good mfr.
if u are experiencing issues, (mainly after driving for a while)… then it could be ur distributor. does the engine crank over? or does it the starter just click when u put the key to start?
if u wanna inspect ur distributor just remove ur distributor cap, inspect the ignitor housing (black box thing that has like 4 wires screwed to it). if the housing is all cracked then u have a distributor that is ready for some work or replacement.
if the motor doesn’t crank over (put the key to start and nothing happens other than a click each time u do it) then u could have a extremely dirty (not maintained) plunger within the starter, or ur battery cables and battery terminals are dirty/corroded, starter cables/wires are dirty or corroded or loose, or ur starter relay could be going. some simple tests will help diagnose what the issue is.
does the engine crank over? or does it the starter just click when u put the key to start?
if u wanna inspect ur distributor just remove ur distributor cap, inspect the ignitor housing (black box thing that has like 4 wires screwed to it).
if the motor doesn’t crank over (put the key to start and nothing happens other than a click each time u do it) then u could have a extremely dirty (not maintained) plunger within the starter, or ur battery cables and battery terminals are dirty/corroded, starter cables/wires are dirty or corroded or loose, or ur starter relay could be going. some simple tests will help diagnose what the issue is.[/QUOTE]
Only in hot days or even driving it for a while example going to get gas which takes about 5 minutes to fill up. Then I start the car and its just cranks. I have to wait al least 5 minutes to start her up again when in time it will start up and run fine. It even starts up like a charm in the morning.
Distributor- It was replaced a month ago due to check engine light throwing a code which was a bad distributor says the mechanic.
Starter- Can I rule out this? I looked at the starter and it seems clean. Engine is turning over. I performed the starter by pass test and it passed. Thanks to FCMs instructions.
[QUOTE=91akira;2039674]Only in hot days or even driving it for a while example going to get gas which takes about 5 minutes to fill up. Then I start the car and its just cranks. I have to wait al least 5 minutes to start her up again when in time it will start up and run fine. It even starts up like a charm in the morning.
Distributor- It was replaced a month ago due to check engine light throwing a code which was a bad distributor says the mechanic.
Starter- Can I rule out this? I looked at the starter and it seems clean. Engine is turning over.[/QUOTE]
u could have bad contacts on the plunger for the starter. cuz heat builds resistance and too much resistance (or more resistance than designed for) can make a circuit not work. but lets avoid the starter for now.
u could have a mfr issue. but regarding the distributor, oem ones or nothing else, i hope its not some aftermarket one or something. if u got work done from a shop u could take it back and ask them to check it out.
no matter what, i highly suggest u get a known good working mfr… or repair urs, or buy a used one and resolder it, or buy a new one from the dealer. its about $50 from the dealer.
u gotta let us know on the symptoms tho. not just what u did, but u have to listen for sounds, n stuff.
Do you know about the by-pass test for the starter? Using a wire from the bat pos to the terminal on the starter. If this passed which it did on mine, can I rule out the starter?
We’ll let you know if its the MFR when I finish my other problems in my car.
i thought i mentioned earlier thets avoid the starter, cuz it is turning over. and i hope u mean that it also turned over when u were trying to start it that time u had the issue.
[QUOTE=azzurribaggio;2039478]Oh BTW I think my problem is the MFR, today it happened and I was like wait lemme try what people do on this thread. So rather than wait 5 minutes before trying again I just turned the ignition to #1 position for a few seconds then cranked her and she started right up!!!
It was in the mid-80s to boys…scorcher…[/QUOTE]
hey jus buy i mean fix you mfr and while you at it buy i mean fix your old distributor and jus throw in a fuel pump and bing botta boom your prb is gone
yup all of that is ok advice. since he’s a “honda tech” i’m sure ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING that they say is totally correct, cuz they are the dealership… woot woot!. <<< :umno:
personally i’m done with this one guy. i’ll help the ones that needs help.
[QUOTE=Squeezethis;2039709]i thought i mentioned earlier thets avoid the starter, cuz it is turning over. and i hope u mean that it also turned over when u were trying to start it that time u had the issue.
but yes, lets start with ur mfr.[/QUOTE]
I know you did. But I just wanted to ask you about the by-pass trick. Just wanted to know if you tried that.
On the MFR, do you just resolder all the components? I’m going to have to do this to save me 50 bucks. Do you have a pic of this MFR? Thanks for helping out.
[QUOTE=91akira;2039910]I know you did. But I just wanted to ask you about the by-pass trick. Just wanted to know if you tried that.
On the MFR, do you just resolder all the components? I’m going to have to do this to save me 50 bucks. Do you have a pic of this MFR? Thanks for helping out.[/QUOTE]
trust me i know about fcm’s good stuff. i learn so much from him and from just studying electrical schematics. but what i was telling u when we were mentioning the starter was that… if u removed ur starter and took it to somewhere to get it tested… and it checks out good? that doesn’t mean ur cables and connections are good within ur car. that is why i wanted u to check those stuff. but since u said it cranks over each time, no problem then.
but regarding the mfr, when u remove it (unbolt it) and unplug the connector. pull it out and remove the plastic cover for it. once u do that, u will see exactly what is wrong. there’s gonna be that flux oily crap, get that stuff, and get to work on soldering, basically repair every soldered point in that thing. then slap it back in. if u don’t trust ur soldering have someone that is good at it do it for u.
Ohh I trust myself. I worked for a company that soldered PCBs eight hours a day. Most of the time its through a mircoscope. Messed up my vision already damn it. But yeah.
I’ll probably work on it in a couple of weeks. Not going to drive it for a while.
Hey thanks for helping me out though. You were alot of help.
[QUOTE=91akira;2040007]Ohh I trust myself. I worked for a company that soldered PCBs eight hours a day. Most of the time its through a mircoscope. Messed up my vision already damn it. But yeah.
I’ll probably work on it in a couple of weeks. Not going to drive it for a while.
Hey thanks for helping me out though. You were alot of help.[/QUOTE]
no prob. personally on ones that i’ve soldered, i try n get a sharpie and write the date of when i resoldered it, that kinda helps give me a sign or reminder of when i last did things to it, just in case i work on it or whether someone else does.
wtf are u talking about? do u even know? cuz i can’t tell what u are talking about. aside from this being like the only thread u even tried to help on. helping is great. but dang. i think the only possible thing u could probably help on are mfr related issues or maybe an oil change help?
but yeah. maybe u didn’t notice that uhhhh there have been more than 1 member here, that have posted their issues.
[QUOTE=Squeezethis;2040230]wtf are u talking about? do u even know? cuz i can’t tell what u are talking about. aside from this being like the only thread u even tried to help on. helping is great. but dang. i think the only possible thing u could probably help on are mfr related issues or maybe an oil change help?
but yeah. maybe u didn’t notice that uhhhh there have been more than 1 member here, that have posted their issues.[/QUOTE]
you probably cant change your oil yourself and for the most part you the one who jumped on this thread thinking you know everything when i jus told this guy wat his problem was and wat to fix you jus a regular street mechanic that thinks they know wat they talking about jus cause you read the helms manual :sipread:dont mean jack your lame fok off :loser:
Well my issue is happening quite often now, I’ll tell you what happened this past weekend on a road trip to Lake Tahoe, and I’ll start checking things out next weekend.
While at the car wash Friday morning it stalled on me right away after I started it, so I did the key in position 2? where the dashboard lights come on, then fired it up and it started fine.
Fast fwd later that afternoon after driving for about 3 hours I stopped to get gas, then when I was ready to go I started the car and it stalled right away. So I tried the same thing I did that morning but this time it wasn’t working (I was like FUK!), so I tried a few more times and still it just kept turning over without starting. Then during one of the tries the car didn’t even turnover, meaning I turned the key and nothing happened (this wasn’t the first time this happened but the first time in a few weeks). So I resorted to just waiting 5 mins, and it started up just fine.
It’s been fine since but I only drove the car back from Lake Tahoe today and hitched rides the whole weekend from buddies.
hahaha u wish. u prolly on the lube rack for over 2 years. hahaha. technically on paper i can’t prove much since everything has been under the table. but i guess me going to school is just me being a student. but whenever u need help too rayzda, lemme know. i’m sure u’ll need it =P
[QUOTE=azzurribaggio;2040444]Well my issue is happening quite often now, I’ll tell you what happened this past weekend on a road trip to Lake Tahoe, and I’ll start checking things out next weekend.
While at the car wash Friday morning it stalled on me right away after I started it, so I did the key in position 2? where the dashboard lights come on, then fired it up and it started fine.
Fast fwd later that afternoon after driving for about 3 hours I stopped to get gas, then when I was ready to go I started the car and it stalled right away. So I tried the same thing I did that morning but this time it wasn’t working (I was like FUK!), so I tried a few more times and still it just kept turning over without starting. Then during one of the tries the car didn’t even turnover, meaning I turned the key and nothing happened (this wasn’t the first time this happened but the first time in a few weeks). So I resorted to just waiting 5 mins, and it started up just fine.
It’s been fine since but I only drove the car back from Lake Tahoe today and hitched rides the whole weekend from buddies.[/QUOTE]
ask rayda to confirm cuz he’s suppose to be such a good tech, but ur car not turning over HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AN MFR ISSUE. u prolly have a compound of issues. ur mfr could be an issue, but it sounds like ur distributor acted up a bit. normally u shouldn’t have a stall issue when ur mfr is going bad. it just shouldn’t start.
with it stalling that is a sign of it being ur distributor.
regarding it not turning over mentions the starter, the starter plunger or cables going to the starter n stuff. also the starter relay acting up is a possibility too…
[QUOTE=Squeezethis;2040519]ask rayda to confirm cuz he’s suppose to be such a good tech, but ur car not turning over HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AN MFR ISSUE. u prolly have a compound of issues. ur mfr could be an issue, but it sounds like ur distributor acted up a bit. normally u shouldn’t have a stall issue when ur mfr is going bad. it just shouldn’t start.
with it stalling that is a sign of it being ur distributor.
regarding it not turning over mentions the starter, the starter plunger or cables going to the starter n stuff. also the starter relay acting up is a possibility too…[/QUOTE]
Ok thanks…looks like I might have clusterfuk worth of issues…regarding the distributor, should I just replace the rotor and cap first along with some plugs and wires?
no. u can inspect those things no problem. but if it doesn’t need replacing don’t unless they are due for it or are crapped out already. u can service ur cap n rotor tho, like sanding/scratching the contacts to clean them up a bit.
but if anything, inspect the ignitor housing box thing first. check for signs of cracks. also clean up the contacts for the wiring on it too. there are like 2 screws that hold 2 connectors. clean them up (sand or scratch them). then use a lil bit of die-electric grease on it (very lil) to improve the connection.
i have pics of my distributor that i have for sale and there are no cracks. if u see cracks tho, its time to rebuild the distributor or replace it with oem, or a known working oem distributor.
regarding ur issue when it isn’t turning over. did u just wait a few minutes then tried starting it again and it turned over n all? or did u try hitting/bumping the starter?
[QUOTE=Squeezethis;2040537]no. u can inspect those things no problem. but if it doesn’t need replacing don’t unless they are due for it or are crapped out already. u can service ur cap n rotor tho, like sanding/scratching the contacts to clean them up a bit.
but if anything, inspect the ignitor housing box thing first. check for signs of cracks. also clean up the contacts for the wiring on it too. there are like 2 screws that hold 2 connectors. clean them up (sand or scratch them). then use a lil bit of die-electric grease on it (very lil) to improve the connection.
i have pics of my distributor that i have for sale and there are no cracks. if u see cracks tho, its time to rebuild the distributor or replace it with oem, or a known working oem distributor.
regarding ur issue when it isn’t turning over. did u just wait a few minutes then tried starting it again and it turned over n all? or did u try hitting/bumping the starter?[/QUOTE]
Yes the 100% full-proof way around the problem is to wait about 5 mins (maybe less but I haven’t tried cause I don’t want to wait another 5 mins), then it will start with no problem.
The ignitor housing box you mean the distributor cap and their contacts for wear and tear or cracks? I’ll look for your link to your sale.