Just thought I’d give a report on my chip upgrade.
Had an extra ECU and thought why not try a Ebay chip program.
My curent mods are as follows.
Stage 1 Crower cams.
4-2-1 Header.
CTR Pully.
FPR set at 38psi
Intake.
After I installed the chip the car sparked right up with no ill effects.
Didn’t think it would make much of a diffrence but it did.
a very nice solid gain from 4000-7000.
Much better then the stock program.
The stock program was also shutting my cams down early.
Dont think I’ll ever use the 8200 rpm redline of the new program but atleast the pesky rev limiter is out of the way.
IMO it was the best $15 I ever spent on my car. These Ebay programs get a lot of flack but I’m happy with mine.
i have the same damn thing and i’m running a more or less stock motor, it really made a difference, alot of people on here dont believe me but it really did (and i was SHOCKED too) give me over 15hp at the wheels, dyno tested and proven, if i can scan the sheet i will. the guy at the shop was like, what did you do this thing, i couldn’t respond cuz i was stepping on my jaw. a $15 chip that made that much of a difference. did yours come as two chips, one for the rev-limiter and one to mod the ignition timing and fuel curve? thats how mine was, i’ve had it in for almost 2 years now and this damn thing is amazing.
where can I look at this chip? just search for “PR4 spoon” on ebay? link me to it if you can easily. I want to look into getting one. I have b17a1 with AEM CAI, thermal classic exhaust cat-back, magnaflow carsound high flow catalytic converter, and GSPORT (mr gasket sport compact division company) high performance clear distributor cap. I have been thinking of finishing off with a racing header of stainless steel (edelbrock pro-flo if I can fit her in there) and skunk2 intake manifold + adj cam gears and cams eventually. I really like the hondata s300…lots of room for future upgrades and built-in datalogging - 16MB Mem chip. But your line of talk makes me think maybe I should give a generic chip a try first…
i’m not sure if it works for vtec motors though, mine said it wouldn’t. not sure why. i’ve never done anything to vtec ecu’s so i’m not sure what to say on that one. there are other chips on ebay that are for vtec motors. just search like i did. i searched for “integra ecu” and eventually found the chip i got. if i were you i’d just search for “integra gsr ecu” and you should find it. it’ll show up with completely programmed ecu’s like the first one but you’ll also find just the chips needed. people just put ecu in the title to get more hits so to speak. i’ve seen some 92-95 GS-R chips on there and there are some on there right now too. there are also ecu’s that will work for 92-95 GS-R’s. i’m guessing 96 is when they went to OBD-2. they said it’d work for 96+ GS-Rs with a harness adapter but that doesn’t apply to you since you have a 2nd gen GS-R. hope this helps.
Since you mentioned it’s been dyno proven, i too would like to see this before and after dyno plot. Otherwise, I call BS. If you understood what these “performance chips” are, and what they do, then you’d understand why i’m raising the BS flag on this one.
If these plug-in chips were really that good, there would be no market for a fully programmable ECU (i.e. AEM EMS, Hondata S300, Motec)
whoever said the post was in the wrong forum? :roll:
“keep the gains to yourself” what kind of Shit is this.
the kind of shit that people pass around without any type of proof to back up the statement, in the end misleading a person to believe that they will gain the same amount of hp. if he states he got “15hp”, many people would like to see proof of it. sheesh. you spent $15, got postive results, thats great. more power to you. but when someone makes a claim of gaining a certain amount of hp, to make the claim believeable to others, there needs to be proof.
nothing here was even directed towards you. no one was even questioning YOUR postive results, so please :chill: and :stfu: and go take your drive.
Just came back from my drive. LOL
Buddy was only claimming 15hp. why does every post need to be backed with a dyno plot.
And it’s a post, not the Bible so if he wants to claim 15hp he can. I’m sure people will take it for what it’s worth.
“there needs to be proof”
:wtf:
i’ll be more than happy to show my proof, the before sheet, i no longer have, i had to throw it away cuz i spilled soda all over it. the after one i do have, its wrinkled as hell but as soon as i can use my friends scanner, i’ll scan it and post the image. or if you guys are patient, next time i feel like strappin the car on the dyno, i’ll do a run without the chip and one with the chip to give kind of a “before and after” kinda deal. i wouldn’t just go around making claims like that. like i said, i know its sounds crazy, no one was as shocked as i was. i know it seems impossible to get 15hp out of a chip that simply alters your ignition timing and changes the fuel curve a bit. maybe i shouldn’t have posted a specific number, cuz now i gotta go through all the trouble. if you absolutely must see it, then i will post. sorry if you guys are thinkin i’m misleading you. again i was just as shocked as a person could be. thats pretty much $1 per horsepower. if it was that easy, i’d give a shop $150 and say gimme 150 more horses and that would be the end of all life’s car problems. the precise gain was actually around 13 or so, but i just figured to round it. it was definately noticeable when i took it for a spin after resetting the ecu after the install. so sorry if i made anyone mad or whatever. believe me, i have no reason to go spreadin stuff like that to make myself look cool or whatever, i was just stating a fact about my experience with an eBay chip labeled as a “spoon” chip. from now on, so i don’t spark a debate like this, i’ll just say “yeah i felt a difference”
oh yeah, thanks for somewhat stickin up for me ballade, since you have some respectable mods, i’m sure you’re getting some good use out of that chip. i’ll be upgrading my entire fuel and ignition system when i go turbo, but when i do, the ecu is comin out for something much easier to tune. this chip was more or less a plug and play deal. not sure what i wanna do yet, still gonna be a while before i can do all that.
the point here is that you don’t need to prove anything to anyone ever, as long as you aren’t selling anything then fuck it. who care what a bunch of car junkies think? tuning your car is supposed to be fun for you and you alone. if you are doin it to make people woo hooed, then you are way off point man. just enjoy your car, and if you feel like the chip made a positive difference, cool. i too don’t persoanlly believe you got anywhere near 15 extra wheel HP, but fuck what I’m talkin about too. if you are cool with fucking up your gas mileage in a time when gas prices are soaring, then cool deal for you there too. as long as the gains are worth it, fine. like i mean, just drive your car and wrench on it. make more power if that is your game. but do it for YOU not for anyone else, and you will be better off and happier and enjoy your ride to its fullest potential. :whew:
No Problem
BTW regardless if you made 50hp or 1hp i still think it’s silly for people to expect a post of a dyno polt everytime people upgrade their cars. Personally I’m thinking 10hp is possible. From 4300-7000 my car rocks now. I however don’t think it was all the chip but more the combined parts working together. My car was bagging for some extra fuel. After 2 years of playing around with my car I can say it actually feels fast now. What seemed like a flat power band now seems very stronge. Like I said before any information posted on the internet should be taken for what it’s worth. Free information. I also think if people are having some success with their rides they shouldn’t feel bad about posting regardless of their claims.
The reason I believe people ask for a dyno plot for these claims is because we want this forum to remain helpful and truthful.
The boards already have a somewhat of a good reputation for being helpful and trustworthy. The last thing we need is someone telling others of false claims.
These false claims, unfortunately, are taken as fact for some new commers on the site. In turn, they heed to the advice or claims made and in the long run find out that it was a gross misrepresentation of the truth.
They find out that their hard earned money was spent on garbage.
This is why some people shy away from finding help on forums is because of these false caims made a fact with no proof.
To summarize, the guys on the boards just want to protect anyone out there from getting scammed. Show proof or shut up!
Proof…
What is it…
A peice of paper that says something to be true. not always
regardless of what a dyno says the real test is how your car feels.
people also lie all the time, even to go as far as changing their dyno plots.
Like I said before take everything on here for what it’s worth.
What works for some will not work for everyone.
For someone to claim 13hp is fine IMO. To tell someone to “shut up” or that their "full of shit " or to “keep the gains to themself” is wrong. It’s this a public board or am i missing something.
I know this is the internet and you are free to do whatever you please. I have nothing against people saying they feel an increase using their ‘butt dyno’. All that is an opinion and everyone is entitled to their own. But making statements such as claiming 15 HP on the dyno is far from an opinion.
I would like to think that we keep the forums to a higher standard then just a forum full of lies and misinformation. Some people do rely on what they read.
Again, being under the “INFORMATION” forum, there is no room for lies and hearsay. Telling someone you dynoed a car and received an increase of 15HP is pretty much stating a fact. So again I must say, “Show proof or shut up!”
BTW- I find it very convenient that the original dyno was ‘misplaced’. :shrug:
It’s funny I’ve seen people make 4hp on a dyno just by increasing their fuel pressure 2lbs. I’ve even seen 8hp gains from an intake. 12hp from a header. I’ve even seen a decrease of 2hp with a header. I’ve also seen huge gains with exhaust and mild cams on cars which were in need of those parts. A chip which adds more fuel and timming could be a vital component on a car which is running a lot of cam, a larger TB, Header, Intake… 10-15hp in this case would not be unrealistic.
