Hey does anybody know where the fuel pump is located? I dont want to drop the tank i’m going to cut the sheet metal to gain access to it to aviod the headaches but i totally forgot where it is located. thanks in advance…
Cutting out the sheetmetal of the car is easier and less of a headache than dropping the tank? Er… whoa. You can pull the Fuel Level Sending Unit out from under the rear seat, but to pull the pump, you have to drop the tank man.
If this aint easier then i dont know what is… i’ll be adding a trapped door to make it look nice… saved for future reference…
It’s fucking lazy is what it is, nothing else. I REALLY hope that nobody comes across this as a reference later. LOL at trap door. Really, how many times do you intend on replacing your fuel pump? And if you do upgrade it would most likely be to an in-line unit, which will be on the exterior of the tank anyways, so that cut you made serves no purpose whatsoever
why would it be an inline unit. maybe he plans on upgrading later on with a intank walbro.
Because, I’m assuming that he’s putting in an in-tank Walbro now…
Either way cutting the body to get to the tank is surely not the way to do it, and should definitely not be recommended to anyone. Fuck that. If you do a 5 second search of google, you can find a factory service manual in PDF, so why cut your car up needlessly?
still i hear what you say. its pointless to cut your body just for an opening to your fuel pump. yea its a pain in the ass to pull the tank but ull get over it.
you sound like a hater. i did drop the tank before it wasnt fun. this way is much easier to change. 15 min job. next time it will be 5 min job. if u like dropping ur tank then you shouldnt be replying to this thread. u probably dont like the idea of a k-series or h-series swap either. those swaps require alot of hacking… my car my time its fast its fun its pretty ill do whatever i want with it. this is for people that wants an alternative that doesnt want to drop the tank.
Yeah, I don’t see the big deal in cutting a hole to access the fuel pump if that’s what it takes to get it changed. Some people might not have the time or equipment to drop the tank. Hell, I’d probably cut a hole if I had to change my fuel pump, and then screw down an access panel over it. These cars are all around 20 years old, they’re well-used and abused. It’s all about creative solutions to keep 'em running.
Well said.
The cars age has nothing to do with it… even on many new Hondas the tank has to be dropped to change the fuel pump out. Mr. Penny hit the nail on the head, its pure laziness.
Ok… Cut a hole in the shell of your car, to get at the fuel pump… problems I have with that:
1). You really want to pull the old pump out, through your car, and have it leak fuel and all kinds of shit… IN THE CAR?
2). You’re going to cut a hole in the floor, and open up that part of your car to the dangers of rusting out? Not to mention some nasty road-noise, as I guarentee that however you seal it won’t be air tight.
- If you do take the time to create a new piece of sheet metal, weather stripping, the latching mechanism (screws? Ugh… Don’t get me started on how bad an idea that is), spraying at least a primer from a rattle-can to try and prevent rusting in that location… All to ‘save time’ and not drop the tank?
I would be willing to bet that in all the time it takes you to do steps 2 and 3, I could have the fuell tank dropped and fuel pump out.
Not to be a dick, but this is a rediculous idea. I hope it works well for you… But as Mr. Penny said, I really hope someone doesn’t stuble upon this thread and use it as a Reference or TegTip, or Walkthrough of any kind.
Its funny when people try to re-think the engineers at Honda and improve upon their methods… There’s a reason why they stuck with the same fuel pump/tank design clear up until the end of the Integras production… Because it makes sense. As I say, why drag the fuel pump into the interior, risk dripping fuel everywhere, not to mention the vapors of an enclosed space, I mean I could go on and on.
[QUOTE=unified112;2160306]The cars age has nothing to do with it… even on many new Hondas the tank has to be dropped to change the fuel pump out. Mr. Penny hit the nail on the head, its pure laziness.
Ok… Cut a hole in the shell of your car, to get at the fuel pump… problems I have with that:
1). You really want to pull the old pump out, through your car, and have it leak fuel and all kinds of shit… IN THE CAR?
2). You’re going to cut a hole in the floor, and open up that part of your car to the dangers of rusting out? Not to mention some nasty road-noise, as I guarentee that however you seal it won’t be air tight.
- If you do take the time to create a new piece of sheet metal, weather stripping, the latching mechanism (screws? Ugh… Don’t get me started on how bad an idea that is), spraying at least a primer from a rattle-can to try and prevent rusting in that location… All to ‘save time’ and not drop the tank?
I would be willing to bet that in all the time it takes you to do steps 2 and 3, I could have the fuell tank dropped and fuel pump out.
Not to be a dick, but this is a rediculous idea. I hope it works well for you… But as Mr. Penny said, I really hope someone doesn’t stuble upon this thread and use it as a Reference or TegTip, or Walkthrough of any kind.
Its funny when people try to re-think the engineers at Honda and improve upon their methods… There’s a reason why they stuck with the same fuel pump/tank design clear up until the end of the Integras production… Because it makes sense. As I say, why drag the fuel pump into the interior, risk dripping fuel everywhere, not to mention the vapors of an enclosed space, I mean I could go on and on.[/QUOTE]
If i was working at a shop then obvious thing to do is to drop the tank. again this is my car. alot of other people will feel the same way about THERE car. now thats clear, with a few more modifications i’m off to reclaim the #1 spot in the all motor section with a stock type R motor… what have you done?
what do u mean claim the number one spot?
If you want to cut the hell out of your car simply for the lack that you’re lazy and don’t want to do it right,its your car so do what you want. But doing this not only will weaken the frame to some point but will also make it a health and safety issue as Exhaust can fill the cabin of the car and or you could start a fire by cutting next to the fuel lines or if one of the lines have a small leak in it.
I say do it the right way and stop being lazy.
i was going to post the link to the fastest f.i/na on this forum but seems like it got deleted… there were 2 versions that was in the track forum for YEARS…
[QUOTE=91_LS;2160345]If you want to cut the hell out of your car simply for the lack that you’re lazy and don’t want to do it right,its your car so do what you want. But doing this not only will weaken the frame to some point but will also make it a health and safety issue as Exhaust can fill the cabin of the car and or you could start a fire by cutting next to the fuel lines or if one of the lines have a small leak in it.
I say do it the right way and stop being lazy.[/QUOTE]
when you have some proof to merit this then i’ll take it into consideration. people hack there cars all the time to fit k, h motors in this kind of cars. all i did was cut a 8x8 inch hole to the fuel pump that can easily be sealed by adding hindges and rubber seals… pretty easy to any diy fabricator… If your worried about causing a fire by a spark then you shouldnt attempt this at all… if your scared you shouldnt be doing anything to your car… like adding an intake… or a header… because honda enginners designed it for that motor? please… how does that weaken the chassis? you have some kind of magic sense that can measure it? have you ever changed a fuel pump on a 92+ civic or the 94+ up integras? have you ever changed your fuel pump? did you not see the rubber seal that seals everything in? why is this any different? seems like all the smart DIY people that i knew from back in the days left the forum. i can see why…
You’re a joke man.
You don’t have to ‘hack’ the car up to put in a K or H. Drilling out an old motor mount and welding a new one in is cake work and not a hack-job at all. Cutting the floor-pan (which is a a major part of the construction of any chassis) and replacing it with a hinged piece of metal, is a hack-job, no matter how you justify it.
Have I changed a fuel pump on my '96 Integra? Nope, I haven’t. But I’ve done one on a Stratus, and guess what? The tank had to be dropped. If I had to do it to my own car, I would definitely do it the correct way and not “save time” by cutting a hole in the floor.
Comparing the construction of the chassis to the header or intake that Honda put on the car is an asenine comparison. The intake and exhaust manifold that Honda put on the motors was purely for emissions, sound and matched to the performance desired by them. Comparing that to how they mounted the fuel tank and fuel lines is apples to oranges.
As I said bro do whatever you want, I wish the best in the end for you… but I find it funny that you come at me acting like I haven’t worked on cars before, yet you’re the one posting, word for word: “Hey does anyone know where the fuel pump is located”. Comedy my friend… comedy.
You don’t have the tools to drop the tank (Car ramps/jacks and a few hand tools?), but you have the tools to cut a hole in your floor? Makes a whole bunch of no sense if you ask me 
A lot of other people will feel the same way about THEIR* car? Doubtful. I dont think that most people would want to cut a hole in their floor to change the fuel pump, but call me crazy.
On a side note, I do have an lsvtec that is putting down some numbers just above what your ‘stock’ R is making. (Which makes no sense because a ‘stock’ Type-R only puts 175whp down, not 190whp… So please enlighten me what is done to your ‘stock’ Type-R that you’re ‘adding modifications’ to) But what does that have anything to do with anything? OMG you have the fastest NA car on G2IC! Yet don’t know where the fuel pump is. You, my friend, are a winner in my book!
I could have a field day with this thread… but sadly, I feel that it would be wasting my time.
Good day Sir, I really hope you dont get any fuel vapor or exhaust in your cabin with your new little modification. The last thing you need is to lose more brain-cells, it seems the ones you have are working overtime.
[QUOTE=unified112;2160383][SIZE=“3”]You’re a joke man.
You don’t have to ‘hack’ the car up to put in a K or H. Drilling out an old motor mount and welding a new one in is cake work and not a hack-job at all. Cutting the floor-pan (which is a a major part of the construction of any chassis) and replacing it with a hinged piece of metal, is a hack-job, no matter how you justify it.
Have I changed a fuel pump on my '96 Integra? Nope, I haven’t. But I’ve done in on a Stratus, and guess what? The tank had to be dropped. If I had to do it to my own car, I would definitely do it the correct way and not “save time” by cutting a hole in the floor.
Comparing the construction of the chassis to the header or intake that Honda put on the car is an asenine comparison. The intake and exhaust manifold that Honda put on the motors was purely for emissions, sound and matched to the performance desired by them. Comparing that to how they mounted the fuel tank and fuel lines is apples to oranges.
As I said bro do whatever you want, I wish the best in the end for you… but I find it funny that you come at me acting like I haven’t worked on cars before, yet you’re the one posting, word for word: “Hey does anyone know where the fuel pump is located”. Comedy my friend… comedy.
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You don’t have the tools to drop the tank (Car ramps/jacks and a few hand tools?), but you have the tools to cut a hole in your floor? Makes a whole bunch of no sense if you ask me 
A lot of other people will feel the same way about THEIR* car? Doubtful. I dont think that most people would want to cut a hole in their floor to change the fuel pump, but call me crazy.
On a side note, I do have an lsvtec that is putting down some numbers just above what your ‘stock’ R is making. (Which makes no sense because a ‘stock’ Type-R only puts 175whp down, not 190whp… So please enlighten me what is done to your ‘stock’ Type-R that you’re ‘adding modifications’ to) But what does that have anything to do with anything? OMG you have the fastest NA car on G2IC! Yet don’t know where the fuel pump is. You, my friend, are a winner in my book!
I could have a field day with this thread… but sadly, I feel that it would be wasting my time.
Good day Sir, I really hope you dont get any fuel vapor or exhaust in your cabin with your new little modification. The last thing you need is to lose more brain-cells, it seems the ones you have are working overtime.[/QUOTE]
My words exactly all in “BOLD” and x2 on everything else. Nicely said unified112. Thanks.
What is that supposed mean? Being a member on a site seance 2001 or longer don’t make you nor anyone else smarter. I know lots about cars and “MIGHT” just know more than you as far as you know. I just choose not to “SPOON FEED” people on commonsense.
judging by the surface rust on the pump and shit, im assuming this shell is a rustbucket anyway, cut away. its only adding lightness at this point.
This thread is kind of amusing. I agree with the basic sentiment that a hack job like this shouldn’t be encouraged and goes against the ethics of being a good mechanic, but I don’t think it has to be condemned entirely. I know for a fact that a lot of the people that own cars like these old Integras are young people without a lot of funds and they may not even have a place to easily work on their cars (apartment dwellers, etc.). The fact is, this is one way to get the job done, and the hole that has been created can easily be sealed up tight with a fabricated metal panel. Would I do this to a Mercedes or a nice Lexus? No. Would I do it to my 20-year-old Integra with 253,000 miles that is beat up and looking crappy in many other ways? I just might (if my fuel pump ever conked out, which I don’t expect to happen). You have to remember that none of our Integras is really worth much money, even the ones that have been religiously pampered and “fancied up” with new motors and all manner of shiny accessories. Just my 2 cents.