Help wit fuel tuning.

Ive been reading a lot on forced induction lately and I am about to order a 50 trim t3 turbo (27lbs/min). I got a stock ls 90 integra lookin to hit like 210whp or so for now until I become totally familiar with FI. Im not new to the honda scene Im just new to FI. Anyways about the way to tune this. People have told me about zdyne and turbo edit(which I dont know if its still around) I hear things about injector failure then I read about people boosting like 15 psi on stock injectors n such using FMU. Also I hear about this check valve and FPR will work to fix any problem under 10psi or so. Can people clarify this up for me. Maybe direct me to a good way of tuning for under 300 bucks or so. Idk unless someone on here can tune me a basemap wit some good gains with boost. Am I able to leave the ECU stock and maybe add more fuel with a FPR/FMU and use an AFC2 or something to fine tune. Idk a lil help please. One more thing I did read the G2IC turbo guide so I did try lookin into this, Im just having a little misunderstanding of certain things.

Well from what I have been reading the fmu setup and any afc setup is inferior to turboedit or uberdata and chrome. For you it will be turboedit since you have a 90 integra that is obd0. Also turboedit isnt just fuel managment, its fuel and ignition plus you have alot of other nice stuff that any fmu or afc wont offer. I belive since you have a 90 all you need is like some 450 dsm injectors, and they will plug right up since 90-91 already has a resistor box, and a turboedit ecu. And talk to xenocron about setting up your ecu. I now have turboedit on my na car and I love it. I just told him everything that has be done to my car and he made a base map and i been running that for about 6 months. I am about to go boost very soon, I have the parts here just havent put them on yet. And I will be using turboedit with 450 dsms on that setup. I will be getting xenocron to make me a base map and I will have to use that because there is no dyno around here for miles. I think I paid somewhere around 225 for every thing, Wich inculded, a new ecu already socketed, a willem chip burner, 4 eproms, a datalogging cable, and a base map. There is now more stuff you can get bundled into one package at a higher price. Also you can hook a laptop to your ecu, im using ecu control, to pretty much moniter all of you systems. So I say go with turboedit. Its basicly a full standalone fuel managment like zdyne and hondata but 1/4 of the price. Its a great setup. I havent had any problems yet.
http://www.xenocron.com/

http://www.beesandgoats.com/boostfaq/g2icturbo.html

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thanks blazin. Ill be checking that out and PDC did u not read I what I said… I already read through that guide. I just didnt understand some of it. Also I emailed that turboedit a whiles ago a few times and I never get a response. I see its in bloomfield nj thought which isnt far from where I live maybe Ill just give a call see what I can set up.

One more thing with that Ecu u got from turbo edit… are you able to hook it up to ur computer and tune it urself? What do I need for that?

When you hook it to the the computer its just for datalogging (showing what the engine is doing) but you can get a Moates Ostrich Eprom Emulator and use that in conjunction with a wide band o2 sensor and a computer to do on the go tunes like say your at the track and want to change your tune, you can do that with the eprom emulator. But only if you really know what your doing. I dont know nothing about tuning so I just used a base map that xenocron made me. If I was you I would go with the tuner package 2 that is on his site. It comes with just about everything you need to start tuning, or let someone else who knows how to tune for you. Also it will have a base map you can use without tuning if noone is around you, wich is what I had to do.

Dang I didnt see what you was asking til now. Yes the program is free to download for tuning. Here it is http://www.turboedit.org/index.php?page=download. There is a slightly newer version out 2.5.5 but it seems hard to find.

So I could only tune myself if I have a wideband O2 sensor? Also how long ago u get a basemap from him. I emailed him a couple times and never got a response.

I just emailed him about a week ago asking for a new base map for my turbo setup and got a reply in 2 days. He said he could do it. Yes you can tune without a wideband but its alot more accurate with a wideband. Download turboedit at that link I gave you and check it out. When you open turboedit to bring up the ign and fuel maps you got to load like a ng55 or ng60 rom.

hey blazin what kinda set up you running?(and how long did u run that base map for?? and what were u boosting >p )
I have talked with xenocron a few times and hes definatly going to be whipping up a turboedit basemap for me… Standalone is by far the smartest way to go about things…used to have hondata :slight_smile: worst thing i ever did was sell it :frowning:

Actually this will be my first turbo setup. I have been running a n/a turboedit setup for about 8 months. I’ll be running a t3 turbo at 8 psi.

similar to what i run now… but idk if running soley a basemap is a safe as u think… its nicer than fmu… but i trust a really retarted ignition timing over a “guessed” basemap idk… cant risk blowing a motor soo i got to go careful but i think ima runa map for a bit too and hopefully all goes well

Well when he makes you a base map, you give him all the info on your engine. And by what you give him he makes a map that is good for that setup. Like now I have a n/a setup. I had to tell him intake pipe diameter, exhaust diameter, engine code, type of ignition, etc. So Its pretty reliable I would think.

When did you email me? I respond to everyone…It may have been filtered. :frowning:

xenocron i have talked to you on honda-tech… i also NEED a turboedit rom burnt, also do you think a local area shop will street tune it for me, cause i also lack a wideband :frowning:

dont u have to solder into the ecu?? i think u do for uberdata, that is how mine was done

but, look at the basemap to see where u are spooling and how much feul is getting dumped in, when i first tried it i put it way to rich and she would barely idle (it was like i had cams!!!)

You will have to find a shop that will tune you…if someone says, “yeah, sure I havent ever done it but I’m sure its just like hondata or something” keep looking for a tuner that knows TurboEdit

really, cause i know of a shop that can tune hondata… whats the major difference? the numbers would still have to be somewhat consistant.
the reason i ask is like u said they will make me there guinea pig (idk if thats good) but I figure with a dyno/wideband they’d be able to ensure all goes well

The difference is that each of these programs have their own quirks…and you will be paying most shops by the hour to learn on your dime. Most shops are interested in quick and easy tuning…TurboEdit is geared for the DIYer and not a ‘shop’ unless that shop has previous experience using TE.