I saw a pic of a del sol with this done @ ha.net, wanted to know how hard this would be todo in a g2 
what!???!?!!?
Originally posted by chipper
what!???!?!!?
The del sol had the engine in its rear area (pretty much the back of the trunk), and it was rwd (duh), i’ll see if i can find a pic of it on ha.net
yeah, i’ve seen an nsx engine in the rear of a crx.
Putting your engine in the rear would be VERY difficult. Maybe not so much difficult as it would be expensive and very time consuming.
Basically you have to completely cut out the rear of the car. Then get custom suspension built so that its out of the way of the engine and axles. Then you have to have custom axles. And of course find a way to connect the axles to the rear hubs.
If you are insanely rich, or are getting it done for free/cheap because you’ve got hookups then i say go for it, it’d be a fun project. but otherwise its a big huge waste of money. For much less you could build an insane motor for your car and keep it fwd.
u cant use the lca from the front sus. in the rear so u could get an axle thru?
my toe itches
jay leno has a ford taurus SHO engine behind a 3" plexiglass firewall in the rear of a ford festiva…
my advice, if you dont know why the engine is in the back in the first place then dont bother.
if you have the $$$ to blow out of your ass on a project like that then by all means go for it, and while your at it lend me some of that $$$ to pay off a ticket so i can get my drivers licence back HHAHAHA…
I still dont see why its so difficult, the engine is laid transversly just like it is in the front. THe only problems i forsee are the axle lengths and getting the axle and maybe getting the axle into the hub assembly. In which case you could just use a sus fork like the frotn uses (to let the axle pass thru) and use front sus hub in the rear. Custom axles can be made.
if ya do it then you can be cool like those MR2 guys and have the intake sticking out the side of the glass too!
Originally posted by notecLS
I still dont see why its so difficult, the engine is laid transversly just like it is in the front. THe only problems i forsee are the axle lengths and getting the axle and maybe getting the axle into the hub assembly. In which case you could just use a sus fork like the frotn uses (to let the axle pass thru) and use front sus hub in the rear. Custom axles can be made.
you have to cut out everything in the back… including your gas tank, so that will have to be replaced and moved. the axles getting the power to the wheels is an issue like you mentioned. and then you have to completely fabricate a new suspension system that is out of the way both the engine and drivetrain…this isn’t going to be simple or cheap
true, there are harder things out there… but this does rank up there with something thats pretty difficult. oh, don’t forget about wiring, thats not gonna be fun.
So if ya put your engine in the back, fuel tank in the front… rad will still be in the front… engine’s gonna have to be directly in line with the rear wheels…
I wanna see the front end of this thing stay on the ground when his gas tank’s just about empty
Oh and have you thought about how this might affect the handling of the car? I mean, mid-engine cars are well balanced and all… if they’re DESIGNED to be mid-engine… Rear engine cars though (Corsica??) have a few handling issues… .and those were actually MEANT to have the engine in the back.
But if you feel like blowin $100k or so, go ahead and send in some pics too! And a video of the car at the track!
Originally posted by 90RioGS
But if you feel like blowin $100k or so, go ahead …
I hope that was a hyperbole, because I cant see it costing more than 5k. Maybe around 1k if you do all of te custom fabrication yourself.
Is it possible to bolt up the front suspention to the rear? Then all you would have todo is hack up that big ass metal beam thats runs between the 2 suspention thingy’s
Originally posted by notecLS
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I hope that was a hyperbole, because I cant see it costing more than 5k. Maybe around 1k if you do all of te custom fabrication yourself.
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haha, i really don’t think you understand what you’re getting yourself into. $1000 would be impossible. $5k may be possible if you did most of the work yourself, and got most of parts for free. Obviously you don’t believe us so what’s the point in us actually talking? Go try all your local shops and ask them what they’d charge you (i guarantee 99% of them will say they won’t even do it). Then you’re gonna have to find a specialty race shop, maybe a place that builds desert race trucks or performace drag cars, and see what they say.
you can’t just bolt the front suspension to the rear, there is a chance you could make it work but you’d need to completely fabricate new mounting points. And remember, the front suspension has integrated steering, you would need to abolish that and make sure it was rigid. But chances are that even if you could get the front suspension mounted in the rear that the engine would no longer fit.
have you ever seen CART cars (or any open wheel race car), look at the suspension, can’t see any springs or shocks can you? thats cause the springs and shocks are mounted inside the car completely out of the way of where they would come into contact with anything… and most importantly creat more drag. You would most likely have to fabricate a suspension that was similar to this so that it could be out of the way.
like i said, you obviously aren’t gonna believe us, so i’m done trying to prove my point.
Its not that I dont believe you, its that you arent saying why it wont work. And do we have cart suspention in the front? Nuff said 
If you used the front suspention (assuming u didnt alter the connection points), you could use your stock axles.
Will you agree that if u can get the frotn suspention in the back and mounted the same way they were in the front, that the rest of the engine move would be kind of easy?
Oh and for the wiring comment, cant u just move your ecu to the rear of the car too?
Originally posted by notecLS
[B]Its not that I dont believe you, its that you arent saying why it wont work. And do we have cart suspention in the front? Nuff said
If you used the front suspention (assuming u didnt alter the connection points), you could use your stock axles. [/B]
why did you ask this question if you already think you know the answer and refuse to take other’s advice? 
you keep saying “i don’t see why it wouldn’t work…” and no one on these boards has actually done it… so the best thing is to go try for yourself if you’re that confident. and then tell us how it went…
Shouldnt this be in the “Engine Hybrids” forum?
If you’re gonna put the front suspension in the back, then you may as well make it rear wheel steering too! or better yet 4 wheel steering!! and then put wings on it… just for fun!
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The first reply to your question was “what???!?!??!”
I’ll ask you now… WHY??? There is no way this could benefit your car. If it could have, Honda engineers would have put the engine back there in the first place!
But if you think it can be done for $5000, what are you waiting for?
Originally posted by 90RioGS
[B]If you’re gonna put the front suspension in the back, then you may as well make it rear wheel steering too! or better yet 4 wheel steering!! and then put wings on it… just for fun!
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The first reply to your question was “what???!?!??!”
I’ll ask you now… WHY??? There is no way this could benefit your car. If it could have, Honda engineers would have put the engine back there in the first place!
But if you think it can be done for $5000, what are you waiting for? [/B]
Drive an mr2 them come back :loser:
Try this experiment. Go out to a parking lto or something. Put your car in reverse, rev it to 5k and drop the clutch.
I tried this on my old clutch and i couldnt peel out, just hookedu p instantly, just like an mr2 (almost).
when you accelerate, weight transfers to the rear of the car, this is the main problem with fwd. On rwd, the faster you accelerate, them ore traction you get (sort of). SO if the engine is already on your rear tires, you will hook up easily because you have traction.
Put on some slicks, a LSD, and a ys1 gsr tranny and you could probably lift the front end off the ground.
Originally posted by notecLS
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Drive an mr2 them come back :loser:
Try this experiment. Go out to a parking lto or something. Put your car in reverse, rev it to 5k and drop the clutch.
I tried this on my old clutch and i couldnt peel out, just hookedu p instantly, just like an mr2 (almost).
when you accelerate, weight transfers to the rear of the car, this is the main problem with fwd. On rwd, the faster you accelerate, them ore traction you get (sort of). SO if the engine is already on your rear tires, you will hook up easily because you have traction.
Put on some slicks, a LSD, and a ys1 gsr tranny and you could probably lift the front end off the ground. [/B]
what’s up with your “i’m the man” attitude?
go do it. then tell us how it went. you don’t seem to want to really listen to anyone but yourself.
Drive an mr2 them come back
MR2.
MID-engine
Rear wheel drive.
MID and REAR engine are different.
weight distribution is different, and thus handling characteristics.
when you accelerate, weight transfers to the rear of the car, this is the main problem with fwd
You want to put your engine in the back of your already-well balanced car. Don’t pretend you understand physics better than I do. Everyone knows why fwd’s spin out so easily. Just because you figured this out by ripping up your clutch, doesn’t make you a physicist.
And like i’ve already stated, if you’re so set on doing this… why are you asking us how hard it is, and not even listening to the replies?? You ARE going to have to completely cut your car apart, spend THOUSANDS of dollars OR hundreds of hours fabricating new suspension and engine mounts and axles and steering assemblies and hundreds of other things. Also you have to figure out how you’re going to keep your back end rigid when you’ve cut a giant hole in it.