Another one of those magical Spoon engines that magically sells for less than a stock block from Honda. :tapfing:
[QUOTE=catawalks;1739484]I’ve got a stock B18A1 right now. But i’m wondering how hard it would be to get to atleast 9k rpms? I mean ideal goal is 10k rpms but i can live with 9k. Would it just be like head work or would I have to balanace the crankshaft and get new rods/pistons?
http://www.honda-performance.com/valve-train.asp
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:giggle: Dawminatrix rocks my socks
damn she beat me to it!
Thank you db2. At least someone understands.
and to Dawminatrix, no where does it say I want to hit 10k with my stock b18A block. I just said what I have now, and what my goal is. If you could understand the English language a little better you would realize there is a difference between “I’ve got a stock B18A1 right now. But I’m wondering how hard it would be to get to at least 9k rpms” and “I’ve got a stock B18A1 right now. But I’m wondering how hard it would be to get to at least 9k rpms with this block”
Please come back again when you have something useful to say. Perhaps you would like to suggest a build for me? If I were to build an NA B-series engine to rev to ~10k rpm and still have power/reliability that would be mainly used for dragging, what would you build?
Is the problem really that I’m not asking the question in a sense that most people on here can understand? I thought gen 2 owners would be above all this.
seriously. how much money do you have to spend on this? because your going to need a very good import engine builder to do this.
and if your dead set on doing this, look into either a OBD-1 B16, or a B18C because those engines were built from the factory with 8k+ redlines, and would take nothing more than good headwork, the right cams, and a stout bottom end to see 10K rpm.
money at this point isn’t really a concern. A budget will be drawn up later after figuring out choices.
And thank you for commenting as an adult with actual input. It is greatly appreciated.
take away a few of my “long time member points” if you want…but the kid was right. If you read each sentence then actually stop at the periods, review, and stop mixing it all together you will see he’s right.
…Now to contribute.
If I were you I would want to make moves that woul give me the best chance at success. I would use a b17 crank, girdle, arp rod bolts, and capable valvetrain. Either that or try it with a completly diff platform, a 4A-G.
You shouldn’t provide superfluous information that has nothing to do with your question. It has nothing to do with my understanding of the English language. Enjoy.
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If he had just posted… “what would it take to get 10k?”
if 10 people responded,
-6
(on this site at least) would have still made fun of him.
-2
would have said what do you have? (to start with, in this case most are in agreement he wouldn’t use his B18A, but still they would ask what he has) . If he had asked a less unconventional question, about how to achieve another goal without suppling the equipment he had, 5 of the 6 that made fun of him would have asked what he had, again to set a starting point (making that 7 out of 10).
-another 2
would just tell him their answer without consideration to what he might have, assuming he had nothing, or he wasn’t planning to use what he has.
Until now I hadn’t had anything useful to post, so i didnt post, cause i am not a jackass.
I am a jackass, so I post all the time.
If money isnt a concern just call up a reputable engine builder and tell him to build you an engine that revs to 10k RPM, problem solved.
What he said^^^^
I hear Honda makes a decent F1 engine.
So, since its a V8 that revs to 20,000 (19K now), you can buy one and break it in two. That way, you’ll have two 4 cylinder engines that rev to 10,000 each.
lmao…^ he broke it down.
on topic. if i were to be building a motor to rev to 10k. i would use a b16 as my platform. due to the rod and stroke ratio.
lower piston speeds and cylinder wall load FTW!! A B16A properly built would do the trick or a B16B would be the better choice. As mentioned before, your usable powerband would be high and narrow. if that’s what you’re looking for then more power to ya. you may contact endyn if money is no object.
[QUOTE=digitalHorizon;1740391]I hear Honda makes a decent F1 engine.
So, since its a V8 that revs to 20,000 (19K now), you can buy one and break it in two. That way, you’ll have two 4 cylinder engines that rev to 10,000 each.
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I actually laughed at this. Best idea I have ever heard. And it makes so much sense. I love it.
And thank you all for replying.
Now if I went with B16A/B would the stock rods/pistons be able to handle the load? Or would it be a much better idea to just fully build the entire motor?
Also, what sort of mathematical equations are there for figuring any of this stuff out? For example: using a b16 crank in a gsr block, what would you do to figure out what length rods and the type of piston you would use to get a 9.5 compression ratio for a turbo setup? I know that example isn’t too specific, but I’m trying to understand the mathematical theory behind some of this stuff I guess. Anyways, thanks again for the help so far guys.
If I am not mistaken The B16B is basically a B16A crank in a B18C-r block with either longer rods or a taller piston.
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Why the push for revs though? I mean, I’m trying to help but I don’t see the push for an engine build with only revs in mind. Most people, if anything, build for a certain powerband, or even max power… but I’ve never heard of anyone mentioning rev limit as a primary build goal. It kinda just comes as an “I also had to…” type of thing.