Originally posted by sucka306 dude, wtf. i was curious about the setup. i, in no way, intended any sarcasm by my post.
Like always, I apologize if you got the wrong impression from my post. I was serious, not trying to be a dick or anything. You are correct about the headers.
For everyone:
I’m not sure how much material Bill Gude adds or takes away from the chambers. This is one thing he will not tell me. It’s quite annoying because it kind of makes me look like an ass to some people, but Bill insists I’m running 11.0:1. Like I have said in the past, as soon as I find out, I will let everyone know, but I think that’s what he’s trying to avoid.
You guys can call Bill and talk to him if you want… 909-245-7577.
I know what my motor COULD do “unleased”. However, in my situation, I have to retain any bolt on’s that are smog legal and other little things. I hear whats being said about the exhuast, stand alone, fuel and intake, but… not on this car.
cool. good to hear. i like the CARB legal header haha. anyways, i’m looking into a TB now for my NA LS setup. I am running a similar setup as you.
95 P&P head
crower springs/retainers
crower 404s
aem gears
SKunk 2 IM
Holley Fuel Rail
Holley FPR
RC Injectors (need to finalize what size, i was thinking 310s)
Walboro pump (255 probly)
Hondata to tune
DC Header (or something better to allow an exhaust, need to find a good one. nothing custom though)
I was looking into the BBK or Gude TBs. I had looked into the Holley, but i heard they suck. any input???
ur wack lol. im not talkin the weapon r bolt on over stock rotor. im talkin the sooooo sexy str throttle body that is 100% billet down to the small shit including the throttle rotor. good stuff. check out the str throttle body and you will understand
Originally posted by KraZEtEggIE ur wack lol. im not talkin the weapon r bolt on over stock rotor. im talkin the sooooo sexy str throttle body that is 100% billet down to the small shit including the throttle rotor. good stuff. check out the str throttle body and you will understand
i’ll peeeeeppp daattt isshhh. then ima cut someone up. and go to sleep.
btw i checked my math real quick and it takes just under 38cc head chambers in order to get 11:1 compression. i think you better tell bill he’s a liar lol. stock pr4 head is 45cc. lol
Originally posted by KraZEtEggIE … str throttle body that is 100% billet…
I would have been all over this back in the day, but unfortunately, I can’t have stuff like that attracting attention here in San Diego. Cops don’t like things like that around here. :shock: They’d probably impound my car if they found something like that.
are you kidding me? ppl around here run from cops. us east coast mofo’s are crazy. cops are too tho. my friend finally got caught on a street bike and now has cops stalking him. crazy shit. y do you guys let them pop ur hood? i’d tell them that shits broke and doesnt pop. i seen the mtv:streetrace trulife thing and was supprised at all the bs laws u guys have. we have the exhaust law that makes sure the ricers dont wake us up but we have no emissions anymore. they were ticketing 1 guy cuz his headlights were less than 22" off the ground, then for all his lights and on top of that they told him his aircleaner was illegal. lie i knew bout the whole law that u cant put anything not carb approved on ur car but didnt think they would go that far with it. kinda depressing.
Originally posted by KraZEtEggIE … you dunno any of they specs of your head?
Nope. I have had this setup for 4 years and have not been able to get consistent info on it. I know what you guys are saying…“WTF!?” Bill is REALLY old school and doesn’t like to give out his secrets. How good is he? I got 10 more hp out of my car after listening to him versus they guy running the dyno and it even idled better.
When I build the B20 block I’m going to demand that he lets me know whats up. I have clearance issues that require specs from him. Until then, the car hauls ass, runs great and pulls like crazy. I get a smile on my face EVERY time I start the car and hit the gas. Isn’t that what matters the most?
Originally posted by KraZEtEggIE y do you guys let them pop ur hood? i’d tell them that shits broke and doesnt pop. i seen the mtv:streetrace trulife thing and was supprised at all the bs laws u guys have.
I ran from the cops once, got away for about oh…2 miles. Roadblock stopped me. I was the only one that ran and the rest of my “street racing” buddies were behind me being herded my direction. Long story short, they had all of us out on the curb, me first in line and every cop was looking in the windows of every car. All of them somehow missed the 2 ounces of dope sitting on the rear floor board in clear glass Kraft jars! They let me go, I went to court with a “Failure to yield to Emergency vehicle” fine, fought it and the cop never showed up. From that moment on, I decided thats as lucky as anyone can get, so NO MORE RUNNIN FROM THE COPS!
You saw that MTV show? My friend Nam was one of the deaths they were talking about. They showed pics of his 4 door Integra in pieces and had “Andre” talk about him. Yeah, I saw his car in pieces that night, right after they removed his body from the scene. From that moment on, I decided thats as unlucky as anyone can get, so NO MORE STREET RACING!
damn, dope is the same thing there as it is here right? cuz i mean i heard some ppl talk bout weed callin it dope, but here we reffer to hero as dope, well some ppl call coc dope too. w/e yo that car was hot man, he was really racing? or just driving fast? felt bad to see his parents like that but still not enough to stop me from racing. it’s the whole scene, i think im addicted or something. love seein ppl from 2 states all goin to 1 parkin lot for races. every time i left races w/o a cruiser chasin me i always got away. i mean i’ve had 2 cop cars within like 10ft of me and hopped the curb but since every1 followed and they had no plates they couldnt do much. it was cool tho me and 1 other car hopped the curb and the cops moved from where they were blockin the enterances to get us or whatever and the rest of the cars just hit it and left out the entrances and exits. i think there were 6 cop cars and 4 entrance/exits. thats the closest i’ve been. i mean i have had to hop curbs soooo many times but never any real damage or problems. i want to goto ca so badd but i cant cuz that is too long of a drive to do alone. i heard of multiple cases of gun shots breakin out from cars in nyc with the cops shooting back. crazy shit. nyc is crazy tho. cops will beat ur ass for wastin their time.
btw i got the bootleg of the mtv show on my pc if u want it and have cable modem i’ll send it to ya.
i’ll bet mr gude shaved the head a bit.
its also possible that he welded the combustion chambers in order to up the compression.
i’m going to find out how many cc’s would be taken out of the chambers if you shaved the head .030"
Originally posted by 93integraRS i’ll bet mr gude shaved the head a bit.
its also possible that he welded the combustion chambers in order to up the compression.
I’m about 98% sure that’s all it is. It’s pretty much the main reason that I haven’t sat down, done the math and actually figured out what the numbers are.
Bill is notorious for milling the hell out of heads. Lots of people strongly disagree with his methods of extracting power out of a motor. He must know what he’s doing cause the reliabilty factor on my setup is quite high for the numbers produced. I said it before and I’ll say it again… There really isn’t that much done to my motor. The basic necessities were addressed and maybe not even all of those. It’s enough to keep up with or one step ahead of most LS/Vtec setups and modified Vtec setups. I don’t beat em all, but I make em think twice about that $20,000 window sticker (GSR’s ITR’s, Si’s).
well i did the math…
if the head was shaved .040" (which is 1.01mm), you’d loose about 5cc from the chamber (this is approx)… which would set you at about 40cc chamber… i’ve talked to Omniman (used to work for Skunk2) and he says at .060" you’ll run into valve/piston clearance issues.
soooo, most likely the head was shaved, used high compression valves and welded the chambers to add material to up compression.
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here’s some basic and very approximate calculations on how many cc’s you loose if you shave the head:
