Ok guys I hang out with about four of my good friends all the time and guess what they ALL have GS-R’s, so whenever we go somewhere Im always last, I HATE IT!!! I was just wondering Ive got an AEM Cold Air so far, I’ve heard that the Injen is a bit better but I dont have alot of money and Im going to have to do this in pieces whats the best way to car my car running like theres, and please guys I dont have any money for a swap so thats out of the question, just a regular old B18A1.
save… and go turbo. 
Turbo would wipe their asses, but on a budget, I would get cams and exhaust and see if you can’t at least stay in the same zip code as your friends, lol.
Just like you said, do it in pieces. Customize your car for YOU, not so you can be like your friends. Faster is nice, but IMO suspension mods are a whole lot more fun.
Err if you want it to run like a GSR why not sell your motor pitch a bit and get a C1…?
That’s why.
What kinda cams would you go with??? Ive heard that with some of them Ill have to do some head work or something and there again goes the money issue!!! I like the Tanabe exhaust, but its a bit too much does anyone know of a style like that thats a bit less expensive??? Let me know, thanks.
dude, you picked an expensive ass hobby. if you want your car to go fast or look good its going to be expensive. search for crower 403s or i think members hear are running colt regrinds. i dont know.
Me, im upgrading my suspension till i get enough $$ to do my engine all at once. thats after 4 years of college
Swapping the AEM for another band will be a waste of money. There’s a couple of things holding you back.
Breathing and gearing. Header and exhaust will help the breathing. A
short gear transmission will help even more.
What tranny should I be looking into??? Does it matter the type of cams I use???
look on ebay for a company called sohcperformance, they sell regrind cams for like $250 for b18/b20 dohc non-vtec. they seem like a good buy for a budget car. although i hear regrinds wear slightly quicker than fresh core cams. turbo might not be a bad idea. i think if you were going to run low boost you could do it around $1000(50-injectors,50-eprom burner,100-piping,500-turbo+manifold,200-fmic,100-bov) just look around for good deals. of course you wont be abled to put the kit together in a week.
dont bother with a shortgeared tranny, unless you are defniately staying na and have the money for an itr tranny. but if you had the money for an itr tranny y not go turbo?
i dont want to turn this into a tranny thread, but youre saying that an itr tranny doesn’t have shorter gears than an ls/rs tranny?? i beleive it does and isn’t the itr tranny a hydo? ive never looked into doing a conversion but it would be easier to get a short geared vtec cable tranny. i know for sure there are at least two in the classifeds right now.
and it does matter what cams you use. do a search and start reading and really figure out what you want and what you need. i promise you’ll change ur mind a lot. i know i have. there’s a million options
Well, so does he. I believe he was saying that it’s not worth it to mess with trannies with shorter gearing, unless it’s itr tranny.
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That’s funny, I want my GS-R to run like my RS.
-nino
What I’m understanding from reading your posts, is that you want more from bolt-ons that can be accomplished. Simple bolt-ons will let your engine breathe better, but will not give you a jump on performance close to a GS-R. Intake, header and exhaust will not give you the horsepower needed to keep up with a GS-R. Besides, if you take into consideration the cost of these mods, you’ll see that it comes close to a swap, unless you can get really good deals. An exhaust will run you about $400 and a header about $350 to $400. If you want to change your intake (which is useless), that’ll be another $150. A 1st gen B16A swap will run you about $1200, and you will have the potential to build it up.
LAtes.
actually i take that back. itr gearing. you can put it in a ys1. pretty much what im saying is after the cost of a ys1, itr final gear, lsd, and a decent clutch and flywheel. you could have baught a turbo setup.
if you want gsr power put in a gsr motor, dumb ass. our car would go faster than your friends gsr
So you’re telling him putting a gsr engine in any g2 makes it faster than one that already has it in there? :crazy: If he did a b17a1 or b18c1 engine AND tranny swap it would be like a stock gsr. Instead of calling him a dumbass make sure you aren’t going to sound like one yourself. Think before you speak.
Since I own a second gen gsr, I’ll see if I can help. With a few basic mods I can walk a 3rd gen GSR. And my friend’s gs with an intake and exhaust can hold at two car lengths through 60mph, so non-VTEC engines have potental as well. here’s some suggestions to what you could do. Remember you have a torque advantage to begin with. Your AEM cold air is a good start. Keep the filter clean.
First, A better exhaust would help of course. Just for your information, a local muffler shop can fabricate one for you with mandrel bends just like an aftermarket one, and even sell you a nice flowing muffler like magnaflow (or you can choose your own) and it would cost you considerably less than dropping 400+ bucks on a tanabe or the like. Mineke(spelling?) charged my friend $150 for 2.5" mandrel bent piping parts and labor(he had his own muffler so for you thatd be extra. Plus they would warranty their work. On his he hit a bump and knocked a hanger loose and it was replaced at no charge.
Secondly, shorter gearing would surely help. If you can save up for a shorter setup then do so. Basically you are looking for one from a stock VTEC b-series honda.
Thirdly, a set of 8mm or larger plug wires(Ractive 9mm $80), and some ngk platinum or iridium spark plugs($20-$30) in conjuction with a tuneup(cap, rotor, etc).
Fourth, Mobil one synthetic 5w-30(somewher around 4-5 bucks a bottle).
Fifth, Cams and cam gears. Forget re-grind. That’s a cheapo shortcut. If you want do modify a car on a budget there is still a CORRECT way to do it. If you want to change engine internals then you have to PAY for them. I might be mistaken but I belive Integra Type R cams($250 each), springs($?), and seats($?) will work and will add decent power. Try a quick search and you can confirm or deny this. Nobody quote and bash me on this I already said I wasn’t sure. Cam gears. Fidanza makes a nice set. I got my pair for 120. They are nice because they have coated teeth to prevent slippage, and laser cut markings for easy viewing, and the adjustment bolts are replaceable unlike any other gear i have seen. That is nice cause if it does slip and a bolt breaks you dont have to replace the whole gear.
Sixth, Intake Manifold and Throttle Body. An ITR or Skunk2 or B17a intake manifold($100-300) would help due to their short single runners. An ITR throttle body(I saw one on e-bay once for $75) will also help but you might have to change the AEM intake you already have to fit properly or at least get a different coupler.
Seventh, headers. Do a search. The general thoughts are DC sports give you the best bang for the buck. Anywhere from $250-350.
A good source for parts is www.inlinefour.com. Good prices AND good people. They also have services such as taking your existing throttle body and making it more efficient, or engine building services. Also they have nice prices on engine swaps. Wessider is correct you could save your money, get their 95 JDM h22 setup and give your gsr buddies a wave when you pass them on your way to the mall. Good luck man.
I was waiting for you to say that 