is the b16A a good motor?

Eclypz · December 22, 2004, 8:54pm

scooby_dooby:

you just showed how mcuh you really know, not much. Torque and Horsepower are not two seperate things, horsepower is a direct result of the amount of torque being produced.

In other words, if the LS is making more torque from 5000-7000rpm, guess what?? It’s also making more horsepower!!!

Races aren’t won using PEAK numbers, in a 14second 1/4 mile your only making oeak power for 1 or 2 seconds. What wins races is CUMALATIVE HORSEPOWER, this means the engine with most horsepower under the curve for the entire powerband, whatever it’s powerband happens to be.

The reason a 140hp LS w/ b16 tranny, can run the same times as a 160hp b16, is because from 5500-6500rpm the LS is making more torque AND more horsepower than the b16, then from 6500-8000 the b16 make more torque AND horsepower, the result is 140hp engine that is every bit as fast as a 160hp engine. Torque matters.

well put…
just to summarize that:

HP=
torque x rpm
------------
5252

HP is a calculation of work (torque) over time (rpm).
if you’re wondering what 5252 is, it’s just a constant.

In other words, without torque, you’re going nowhere.

G2sleeperstyle · December 22, 2004, 9:03pm

something about those odd numbers…i like them :shrug:
my bro had a 1.9L b18c with around 250hp all motor. definetly not streetable but he drove it daily anyway :roll: dork
and b17a comes to mind. i just like odd numbers for some reason

system · December 22, 2004, 10:31pm

remember…we do not look for and are not impressed by peak numbers.
what we really want to look at is the “powerband”

KraZEtEggIE · December 23, 2004, 7:32am

HP=torque at 5252 rpm, can’t believe i never noticed that. boy do i feel like a dumb dumb head. ps y is the thread creator not banned? if i made a post like this id be banned then told i was stupid.

ljoe · December 23, 2004, 7:46am

it wasn’t the creator that started all this morgan, it was that rockstar guy that just won’t quit.

KraZEtEggIE · December 23, 2004, 7:51am

don’t be jelous you sold your vtec shit to me and somehow i only run vtec motors now. im sick of you people being gay so mi going to state some opinion… . … i love … periods… like … the faggot on page 1…

vtec is fun, loud, and for equal displacement normally creates more power.
ls’s are torquey lil fux.
if you run a nice short geared lsd tranny with an ls it should be quicker than a b16 swap, stock for stock. ls makes power off the line, because of displacement. not the fact its non-vtec, main reason 2.0L gsr motors are one of the best honda motors ever. =) easy build, easy swap, what more could you want? no you can’t have lyndon.
i have a b18c in my car now and its fun but i cant wait till i get my 94 teg shell, and drop my old 90 ls with a 99 si tranny in it.

ljoe · December 23, 2004, 7:52am

did you get drunk alone again and plop down behind the computer morgan?

KraZEtEggIE · December 23, 2004, 7:53am

sober…no sleep fucks me up as much as alcohol. this 94 is gonna be sweet. go on aim lol.

ljoe · December 23, 2004, 7:55am

ah the hell with aim, i’m going to bed. :sleep:

system · December 23, 2004, 8:18pm

:sucks:

G2sleeperstyle · December 23, 2004, 8:20pm

:werd:

i say just buy whatever the fuck you want, dont listen to other people.

Extreme_Powder_Coate · December 23, 2004, 11:03pm

any b series is a good motor so is the h series no d series junk

KraZEtEggIE · December 24, 2004, 6:52am

d-series can make 200+hp na. thats pretty darn good in my opinion.
:bump:

arw321 · December 24, 2004, 1:57pm

Are you serious? You obviously know absolutely nothing about d series motors.

G2sleeperstyle · December 24, 2004, 4:25pm

for rizzle.
my bros little slow ass hatchback has just as much torque if not more than my b16a… they have tons of potential

ljoe · December 24, 2004, 5:56pm

haha, nobody thinks it’s possible. why? because only a few have done it. a local guy a while back had a 94 civic dx that he built up pretty nicely. nothing better than seeing a 1.5l sohc smoke an si

G2sleeperstyle · December 24, 2004, 7:00pm

oh, to answer the original question of the thread…

yes :lol:

KraZEtEggIE · December 25, 2004, 1:21am

fuckin subscribe made me think u posted that quoting me. lol.
that bisimoto guy that makes headers(might be a company) had some crazy hp from his 2.6L d16.

Extreme_Powder_Coate · December 25, 2004, 11:31pm

yes i know about d motors yes they make good power and u can get power out of them. i think the internals on a b and h motors are alot stronger stock. d rods are not the best stock.

Are you serious? You obviously know absolutely nothing about d series motors.

system · December 26, 2004, 1:09am

ive heard nothing but good things about the b16a motor.true its not as tourqey as other honda motors. if youre looking for tourqe id go with a h22 or b18c. as for the power it would be better to get a jdm da b16a as ive read that they have 170hp as compared to the jdm b16 out of a ef.plus its a direct bolt in and has obd0.personally i plan on getting a jdm da front clip, ive seen them for around $1400 and you get the jdm lights,and bumper lenses as well as other stuff you can use as spare parts.