Im looking into installing an ITR rear sway bar in my a DA. There is a thread on here about it but after the change, the site has taken, unfortunately we lost alot of pics on past threads! So I thought I would start a new one. After reading some info online, I have read that if installed unproperly the bar snaps out of sub frame drilled holes…because of wrong screw size or brakets. If anyone has any info that would be great…including where I could find a ITR rear sway bar also…Beto_20DA:manual:
yes that is a typical problem, just pick up a ASR subframe brace and you can eliminate it.
http://forums.g2ic.com/showthread.php?188659-ASR-Braces-amp-Sway-Bar-Kits-Now-For-Sale!!
A friend of mine installed a Type R bar on his 2000 GSR and it eventually ripped out even though he had a plate kit that was made specifically for the conversion.
I had a progress sway bar on my last 93 Integra which mounts in a fashion similar to how you would mount an ITR bar…and it ripped out (although it was fine after I welded the brackets in place).
You can buy the ITR bar itself from an Acura dealership for like $80 but you are going to need brackets, bushings and some kind of end link system.
EDITED out a bit of bad info from right here.
On my new 92 GS-R I bought an ASR subframe brace to use with my old Progress bar (but haven’t figured out how that bar is going to work out yet).
$180 may seem like a lot of money until you are having to weld bits of your subframe back together…
May I also make the obligatory suggestion that if you haven’t upgraded your bushings, you should do so. Back in 2001 when I joined this site the first time, I was told the same thing and did it even though I was skeptical. It really does make a huge difference (and that car was only 8 years old at the time…not 20!) and will only work to amplify all other suspension upgrades that you make.
is the 22mm US ITR bar and the JDM 23mm bar different? i have the JDM 23mm bar with the ASR subframe brace and it uses the oem endlinks.
I don’t know if the JDM and USDM bars mount differently, but I doubt it?
I just ASSumed that the stock endlinks wouldn’t work because they wouldn’t line up and work with the stock DA lower control arms since in that design there isn’t a ton of variation on how you can mount them, but obviously I’m wrong. Sorry for any misinformation; above post has been edited.
Looking at AcuraAutomotiveParts.org it looks like with all the assorted hardware you’d be looking at about 160 or so, but you can probably reuse some factory parts there. But yeah, get the ASR brace to go with it or you’ll probably regret it eventually (my car went almost a full year before that Progress bar ripped out).
http://forums.g2ic.com/showthread.php?183413-Type-R-Swaybar-the-easy-install&highlight=
Quick n easy, no subframe tearout in maybe 2 years of tracking
Great Thread…! But I cant seem to be able to view pics…
[QUOTE=scratchymaster;2153129]http://forums.g2ic.com/showthread.php?183413-Type-R-Swaybar-the-easy-install&highlight=
Quick n easy, no subframe tearout in maybe 2 years of tracking :)[/QUOTE]
Hey Scratchymaster, great thread man. Im trying to do the project with your instructions but I cant view any pics man…Am I the only one? If not can you post up those pics again?
So not recomended?
[QUOTE=buymysoul;2152907]A friend of mine installed a Type R bar on his 2000 GSR and it eventually ripped out even though he had a plate kit that was made specifically for the conversion.
I had a progress sway bar on my last 93 Integra which mounts in a fashion similar to how you would mount an ITR bar…and it ripped out (although it was fine after I welded the brackets in place).
You can buy the ITR bar itself from an Acura dealership for like $80 but you are going to need brackets, bushings and some kind of end link system.
EDITED out a bit of bad info from right here.
On my new 92 GS-R I bought an ASR subframe brace to use with my old Progress bar (but haven’t figured out how that bar is going to work out yet).
$180 may seem like a lot of money until you are having to weld bits of your subframe back together…
May I also make the obligatory suggestion that if you haven’t upgraded your bushings, you should do so. Back in 2001 when I joined this site the first time, I was told the same thing and did it even though I was skeptical. It really does make a huge difference (and that car was only 8 years old at the time…not 20!) and will only work to amplify all other suspension upgrades that you make.[/QUOTE]
Your friend with the 2000 GSR type r sway bar tear out problem: Do you know the name of Brace Kit so that everyone is aware of it? Also, Im understanding that you recomend welding the D- Bracket to the sub-frame? Not sure if welding around gas tank is very good! Anyhow, I hear you about the bushing I was planning on Energy Suspension set up…So I should get a Kit HUH? Why isnt this on teg-tips?
ASR OR Beaks?
[QUOTE=BLKACK1;2152906]yes that is a typical problem, just pick up a ASR subframe brace and you can eliminate it.
http://forums.g2ic.com/showthread.php?188659-ASR-Braces-amp-Sway-Bar-Kits-Now-For-Sale!![/QUOTE]
Thanks for the link…! I noticed alot of peeps on here use ASR Braces…Has anyone tried out BEAKS anti-sway kit? They have a kit tha comes with an ITR rear sway bar…Although im not sure if it Honda OEM…still waiting for reply from them(beaks).
Is ASR REAR Brace kit for daily driver?
Im wondering if anyone of you guys out there have installed the ASR Kit on car? And wouls you recommend it as a daily driver?
I have the 23mm JDM ITR rear bar and I made my own reinforcement out of 1/4 in aluminum. I’m going on about 3 years with it and it works perfect.
I have purchased one for a daily driver…it just isn’t installed yet. There is nothing intrinsic to the brace that would make it inappropriate for a daily driven car. I would never have gotten a rear subframe brace except to support a bigger sway bar. The car flexes so little at that point compared to other parts that it really is typically one of the last suspension enhancements you would consider as a stand along modification. I would highly recommend it if you are going to be using a sway bar that will mount to the subframe instead of the factory locations.
But then again, I don’t have the tools or familiarity with fabbing my own stuff. The bars are only a couple years old if that and people have been running big bars without problems with home made parts for years.
Did that answer your question?
Bigger Rear sway bar for dialy driving…
Yeah that was helpfull…my reply is a little days late…I just finishes installing the rear trailing arm on the DA…after all the reading I had a good idea how to…Decided to go with OEM Bushings instead of Energy…My next thing is rear sway bar…I was interested in the ASR KIT or ASR Brace with ITR sway bar…What you think/ What you get? Are there other aftermarket kit that do the JOB? ASR kITS are a pricey…Back tp the question: Just wanna make sure the ride isnt bumpy or harsh on the ride…I got coilover and dont need any more movement…THANKS!!
honestly for a daily driver i wouldn’t bother. unless you drive your daily driver very hard and you’re looking for specific handling characteristic improvements. just get some prothane sway bar bushings and leave it at that.
Or a stock replacement bar like Addco or Suspension Techniques.
Progress 22mm swaybar
I have the Progress 22mm swaybar and endlinks on mine…Here is a pic…
Finally Got the ASR Brace!
I finally got the ASR Brace for my DA…! And the next step is to buy the ITR Rear sway bar and all the other items that go with it…I have listed all the part number below. I got this info from another website while doing research…the thing is that the D.I.Y was an ASR BRACE w/ITR Rear sway bar on a DC. My question is would I be able to use the same endlinks of DA rear sway bar or would I have to get DC Endlinks? In the DC ASR Brace w/ITR REAR sway use the DC endlinks. Not sure if DA/DC are the same or will fit 22mm ITR Rear sway bay…Also not sure if I should go with the OEM rear sway bar bushings( rubber) or Energy Suspension bushings(polyurathine)? Any info guys would be awesome…Im gonna take pics. Just realized redintegra posted that he used OEM Endlinks!
ASR Brace w/ ITR Rear Sway bar for DA part List…If anything is wrong please comment
-edit- heres all the part numbers if anyone is interested:
1.) 52300-ST7-Z01 rear swaybar
2.) 52315-ST7-Z01 swaybar bushing (2 needed)
3.) 52308-SS0-000 bushing bracket (2 needed)
4.) 52316-ST7-Z00 endlink bushing (2 needed)
5.) 52312-ST7-Z00 endlink bushing collar (4 needed) - this part can be reused from the stock swaybar
6.) 90175-ST7-Z00 bolt (8x35) (2 needed)
7.) 94050-08080 flange nut (8mm) (2 neede
I have it on mine the brace is really good. I did an autocross event and many canyon drives. My car feel’s more neutral and very predictable. Overall, its good balance between street driving and light tracking.
BTW, the stuff on the bar was a stickier that I peeled off.