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[QUOTE=abs-lsd;2177720]Honda makes the best 4 cylinder engines available. Period. The J doesnt pack half the tech and is nearly a decade older. And before you say its only six years and thats not a decade think about how quickly technology has advanced in the past 15 years. Weight? DUUUUH. 2 cylinders less? Less expensive to maintain and modify. More room to work in the engine bay. Torque? Any idea why 4 cylinder Honda engines don`t produce very much torque but rev to a billion rpm? Because thats the only way to put power down in a front wheel drive car. Swap a J with 260ft-tq at 2500rpm and 250hp at 5600rpm and tell me when you hook up? Never. I could go on but im bored.
Who cares what engine is UNDER my hood, why I put it there and how much it cost me? I do but I don`t see any reason for someone else to. You could use whatever engine you like. Good for you.[/QUOTE]
2001-2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type S - 260 hp (194 kW) @ 6100 rpm, 232 lb·ft (315 N·m) @ 3500-5500 rpm
those are the current realistic specs
LOL weight??? what are u talkin about? the k motor is not such a light engine!! LOL… maybe what 150-200 LBS More? who cares about 200 pounds more when u have the power to back it up?
LOL here are the K-20 from a rsx!! Maximum power: 200 bhp (149 kW) @ 7800 rpm
Maximum torque: 143 lb·ft (194 N·m) @ 7000 rpm
you seriously comparing those specs!!! wao… ok.? thats all i have to say! by the way both motor come on a front wheel drive!! from factory!!! with a 6 speed manual LSD tranny…
who cares how old the engine is? it still makes decent power to bust the assholes out of the new engine.!!!
now looking at car history the old engines actually have the best performances! look at the celica 3sgte!? the supra? the type R integra? honda? the age of the motor!!? has nothing to do with the power the engine introduces!!
and actually the only real 4 cylinder honda made has been the k20!! the only reason honda came out with the K motor was to keep Up with the CELICA gts (2ZZGE) WHICH I OWN ONE AS WELL!! NASTY MOTOR! the celica owns all B series and GSR’s if you dont believe me? research it and you will find out but anyways! am talking about the motors stock vs stock out of the dealer!!
My car fucking rocks and I love driving it.
Your engine is being supported by its oil pan on a concrete garage floor.
I win the comparison:dance:
[QUOTE=OMG Its Weasel;2177699]uh, how about not wanting a giant hole in my hood telling everyone there is a V6 in the car?
LOL… who cares if people see theres a v6 in the hood?? thats sick real head turner all day!!
im not making it seem like shit.
yes you are. winning like a baby abou modifying a hood LOL…
lets not.[/QUOTE]
i say is worth it so lets go there… for the money invested in each swap!? the K cost way to much for the gains over the less expensice more power j swap!
now For DA integra to use the K u have to go K-pro! how much k-pro? cost over $1000
the j swap can use the stock cl computer! all day long!! and if u use the aem stand alone … you do wonders with tha motor stock lol… it would take a boosted k to keep up!! to the j with bolt ons!
[QUOTE=abs-lsd;2177869]My car fucking rocks and I love driving it.
Your engine is being supported by its oil pan on a concrete garage floor.
I win the comparison:dance:[/QUOTE]
LOL who says that? you moron! by cutting the hood you have more than enough ground clearence … for you to go under the car and cry when u get busted by a j! lol.:bigread:
I would love to see the dumbass who brings a jswaped fwd civic/integra to a race track to kick my ass.
[QUOTE=abs-lsd;2177869]My car fucking rocks and I love driving it.
Your engine is being supported by its oil pan on a concrete garage floor.
I win the comparison:dance:[/QUOTE]
Lol you should compare how much money you spent!!! and then c if you reallyh won! LOL…:bye:
I guess you would since cars that dont run/are not complete cost less to build LOL
lol this one would bust your ass in the track!!
I see that youre thinking about the k20. Good choice:sipread:
EDIT - Im done with ths guy. Sorry for the stupidity/BS posts peeps I was just messing with him on his level.
[QUOTE=abs-lsd;2177892]I see that youre thinking about the k20. Good choice:sipread:
EDIT - Im done with ths guy. Sorry for the stupidity/BS posts peeps I was just messing with him on his level.[/QUOTE]
i was going to jump in but you were having too much fun.
torque steer is a bitch, that is all.
[QUOTE=abs-lsd;2177892]I see that youre thinking about the k20. Good choice:sipread:
EDIT - Im done with ths guy. Sorry for the stupidity/BS posts peeps I was just messing with him on his level.[/QUOTE]
i never said a k20 would not be nice dude… im just trying to explain to you why i think (my own personal opinion) a k20 is not such a worth swap! it cost too much to do it… and u only gain shitless HP. the j has more power and it cost less!! to me thats smart math! but whatever lol if you got money to blow like that good luck!!
you guys talkin about torque steering?? any car close to 300 HP front wheel is going to have some issues with torque steering!. stop putting to many excuses and just accept the facts
yeah, you are right Bro!! we are not on the same level!!
you seem to be stuck in the past! its time to take a lil step in the future son!!:chill:
k20 swap * you prob spend at least!! 4k-5k, am sure just to make sure the car even runs on a basic swap! at 200HP??? lol seriosly.! you would have been better off boosting ur ls motor and would have money in the bank for a long vacation! LOL
[QUOTE=kNOwLedGe420;2127204]I hate to sound like a downer, but why go through all the trouble and money involved with the K-swap (removing tranny mount, cutting hole for shifter box, axles, mounts, wiring, swap header, radiatior, etc.) only to install a sub-160hp K24A1 from a CR-V?
Seems like a lot of trouble for not a lot of power.[/QUOTE]
this guy made an excellent point!!! am basically just saying the same!! and telling you if you wanted to be different a j would have been a heck lot better… 160??? are u serious?? lol u dont even have the real 200HP k? wao dude you should slap yourself!!! lol… going to all that trouble for a lousy 160HP???
and u sayd you would put a k20 head on the k24 block…right? thats more money you have to go on spending!! to basically gain shit!! k20 head is like 700 and up! at least a decent one! lol… your ass is going to be broke as hell!! and really unsatisfied!! with the end results!!! for the money you put on the project!!
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[QUOTE=abs-lsd;2178033]My bone stock K20A is putting down nearly 240HP. The car is already done and I am very satisfied with the results.
I don’t understand why you’re turning this into a personal attack but I feel as though I should defend myself despite the irrelevance to the topic. Lets just say I’m not broke and that my passport is thicker than your wallet. Plus the daily parked in my driveway is a car you dream of owning when you grow up. If that ever happens…
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LOL. ok mister your passport is thicker than my wallet! like you know!!? seems like your passport is thicker than your brain as well! spendin all that money on such a useless project!
to be honest can you give a price!? on how much you spend on the swap? be honest please just to know exact how much everything cost thanks
[QUOTE=abs-lsd;2178033]My bone stock K20A is putting down nearly 240HP. The car is already done and I am very satisfied with the results.
I don’t understand why you’re turning this into a personal attack but I feel as though I should defend myself despite the irrelevance to the topic. Lets just say I’m not broke and that my passport is thicker than your wallet. Plus the daily parked in my driveway is a car you dream of owning when you grow up. If that ever happens…
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ABS-LSD K20 ftmw!!!
I would like to know wat your daily is…:manual:
dont take it personal bro, but u think all the money u spend on a k? was worth 240 hp?
wouldn’t that been easier boosting ur ls with bolt ons and an ebay turbo kit? seriously
if you would be talking about 350+ that would be more resonable lol but 240? for over 5k prob invested on the motor. dont seem that being such a smart idead?