K20 DA's??? Anybody built one??

[QUOTE=XsiGsR;2178037]ABS-LSD K20 ftmw!!!
I would like to know wat your daily is…:manual:[/QUOTE]

well to tell you my daily is a civic EK that i only use for transportation! dont have any intention of investing money into it.

also have a 2000 celica Gts- widebody, lamboo doors, short shifter trd catback ,injen CAI , ported headers on SAFC 2 tuned almost doing 200hp all motor( by me trowing a 50-70 shot NOS would destroy your 240hp k motor.) but i rather not i just like my celica to chill

also have a integra Da which is my project soon to be! i already started on it.

also have a 2005 cadilla escalade suv weekend car

and my girl has a mini cooperS…

those are my cars basically:shock:

I don’t think he was asking you about your cars…

XsiGsR - I wouldn’t mind sharing but would like to leave it for another time if you know what I mean.:slight_smile:

And to answer your question sicklyda - YES I think every penny was worth it and I considered all of the alternatives available instead of simply jumping in head first. Put down the playstation remote and realise cars are more than just numbers and performance figures.

[QUOTE=strictlyDA;2178041]well to tell you my daily is a civic EK that i only use for transportation! dont have any intention of investing money into it.

also have a 2000 celica Gts- widebody, lamboo doors, short shifter trd catback ,injen CAI , ported headers on SAFC 2 tuned almost doing 200hp all motor( by me trowing a 50-70 shot NOS would destroy your 240hp k motor.) but i rather not i just like my celica to chill

also have a integra Da which is my project soon to be! i already started on it.

also have a 2005 cadilla escalade suv weekend car

and my girl has a mini cooperS…

those are my cars basically:shock:[/QUOTE]

Is the Lambo Door to fly when you push the NOS button?

strictlyDA
dont take it personal bro, but u think all the money u spend on a k? was worth 240 hp?

wouldn’t that been easier boosting ur ls with bolt ons and an ebay turbo kit? seriously
if you would be talking about 350+ that would be more resonable lol but 240? for over 5k prob invested on the motor. dont seem that being such a smart idead?

Ebay Turbo kit?

I’ve read all your post, you ask him not to take it personally but can’t stop bitching his car…

WTF

You want to be the king of Internet with your lambo doors or what?

Who care what he has/does/thinks! It’s HIS car, nobody have the right to bitch what HE like.

If you want to act like that, go somewhere else. Stupid Troll

I’m pretty sure, because of YOU. This thread will be locked soon…

It’s sad since it was informative for people who want to do the K-Serie Swap.

^^Sil I have been thinking of starting another thread with a detailed first post on how swap the DA and keep it open for discussion and questions. What do you think? I’m just afraid this shit might go down in that thread if I go for it.

New thread um the k is way better try turning that car with a j series probably gonna be real shitty the k24 is only like 60 LBS. heavier then a b series and the K is one of hondas best engines. And for all the money we spent on it we are basically our own race teams. Da with a k is set. We put all that money in to have a fucking awesome time so who cares what it cost honestly. Also the j is probably only cheap if you are really good with wiring.

count with my help!!!

props to you, abs-lsd…good work, it’s nice to see something new and innovative in this community and also your helpfulness in giving the facts and advice you to prospective K builders.:up: Also you ACTUALLY track your car,so kudos to you.

Honestly the only reason im posting is cuz i’m really annoyed by StrictlyDA 's comments and his/her ignorance on the subject of matter. I can’t per say i have experience owning K-series, however from experience, your comment:

“Torque? Any idea why 4 cylinder Honda engines don`t produce very much torque but rev to a billion rpm? Because thats the only way to put power down in a front wheel drive car. Swap a J with 260ft-tq at 2500rpm and 250hp at 5600rpm and tell me when you hook up? Never. I could go on but im bored.”

just paints the picture…DONE DEAL!! Honestly at this point i feel StricklyDA is a HUGE FANBOY, just giving the bare number of power and money, which in the field of racing (except drag racing specially) power does not make a difference. As you know in the end its really up to the driver not the car, that’s why if you understand the statement “it’s more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow” then you would understand. Sorry to be ranting but i feel is should be said…if you want me to delete this post i’ll gladly do…but i just wanted to get my 2 cents out and my final words is JUST DRIVE THE CAR, AND HAVE FUN!!!

lol ok guys i guess we have different opinios i dont see nothing wrong with that. No reason to take it personally Enjoy the car man!

Cool il give that a shot sometime soon!

K guys i have a very quick rough draft for the thread il start.

Lemme know if i missed anything or if there are areas to improve.

Mounts -

There are two company`s out there that have motor mounts available for our chassis.
Hasport and Innovative.

The differences between kits is quite substantial so its is something you should check out on your own.

When you decide to order make sure to specify/strees what year the car is. 90-91 mounts dont work in 92-93 chassis and vice versa. If its a GS-R you need 90-91 mounts.

Both kits require the removal of the passenger side transmission mount. The right way to do this is by drilling out the spot welds using a spot weld drill bit but you could use a plain drill bit or grinder.

Im using an innovative mount kit and its holding up fine after one season. My main complaint with this kit is that it is designed to drop the engine in from above rather than lower the chassis onto the engine. The hasport kit seems to solve that problem.

Shifting -

You need the shifter box and the cables from a Type-S. This could go one of 2 ways. Either you cut your tunnel to accomadate the shifter box and bolt it in place using either a karcepts or k-tuned shifter mounting kit. Or you make an adapter plate to bolt on the tunnel inside the car. I don`t think the original center console fits over that set up but I have not tried.

Not all shifter mounting kits will work for the G2 because the tunnel is smaller. You either need one made for the EF or need to modify the ones meant for eg/ek/dc.

Another option is to go with the Hybrid-Racing shifter box. Its highly adjustable(shift throw, distance between gates, knob height) and bolt in place using existing holes in the body. No cutting required. Downside is the cost but most who choose this path are happy with the results.

Clutch

As we all know the G2 uses a cable clutch and the K-series transmissions use hydro.

Option 1
Innovative hydro to cable conversion. This conversion uses your stock cable to actuate a MC. IMO not the best idea since it is huge and heavy(hard to find a place to mount it. And you now have two different system that could fail.

Option 2
Hasport Cable conversion for K-series transmission. Uses linkage that essentially converts the K trans to cable.

Optyion 3
Sonem (Suja 1). It’s a bracket that mounts an MC to the G2 pedal assembly.

Cut and Paste Review.
The bracket is not welded at the right angle so you have to shim the MC to get the piston at the correct angle for the pedal to transfer motion properly.
The MC needs to be mounted upside down unless you want to cut the cowl to pass the line.
Not using the HVAC but i doubt very much that you would be able to retain your left hand vent and window defrost.
It mounts the MC so impossibly high that there arent very many places to mount the reservoir.

Even with those problems it has worked reliably for me so far.

Don’t forget that you will need to make a custom clutch hose if decide on hydro.

Headers -

Most any swap headers should fit without issue.

Beware if you are using a K24. Not all headers will fit. K24 deck heigh is 19.7mm taller than the 2 liter so the header might not be tall enough to get the merge underneath the subrame and away from the steering rack.

The lip of the sub frame will have to be cut and hammered flat to clear the header primaries and oil filter.

Axels -

I have heard that base model axels work but have not tested the theory.

I`m using custom length from drive shaft shop and Hasport has axels available too.

Radiator -

Any half rad should work with the right hoses.

Full size rads will have to be from civic SI or rsx. Same goes for full size aftermarket.

If you want to go full size aftermarket your best be would be a custom one that tucks it underneath the Rad support. It will give you more room to work. Especially if you use an rbc manifold.

Hoses

Available from k-tuned or hybrid racing. You can always raid the local auto parts stores.

Temp sensor -

Youre cluster will not read the temp from a k water tem sensor. Either plug the sensor into the top water neck of the engine using either an adapter or rad hose insert.

Intake Pipe -

Use your imagination or buy a swap intake.

Front Sub frame -

I have heard that the full race traction bar clears the engine and crank pulley but would need confirmation.
The k-tuned/etd piece fits perfectly as it is designe just for this.
I think the Stock sub frame could be hamered in to clear the alt/ac compressor. Someone would need to confirm.

Fuel -

Fuel pressure regulator like the aeromotive A1000-6 is needed. The stock filter can be retained. K series rail can be retained if on a tight bugdet.

Custom lines with an fittings required.

Electrical -

Custom charge harness needed

Basically 4-5 wires to link battery started altanator and fuse box
Conversion harness.

Either rywire specifically for the G2 or Hybrid racing universal conversion harness.

Management

K-PRO. The only way to do it properly.

Cheaper alternatives.

PRC ECU (JDM Type R)
This is a less expensive option simply because the prc does not have an imobilizer which would require a imobilizer bypass kit. (k-tuned or hybrid racing)

Speedo -

The K uses an electric speedo. The G2 has a cable speedo.

What does this mean? If you don’t have K-Pro you don’t have a speedo. Why? Because if the ecu does not have a speed signal it will be in limp mode.

If you have K-Pro you could use the speed sensor from a 90 CRX-SI. Slots right into the K-trans and works with the G2 speedo cable.

I have had limited success running an electric DC2 speedo in my DA cluster. It does not read 100% accurate but its something to think about…

Not running PS/AC?

You need a tensioner kit. Available from either K-Tuned, Hybrid or Kercepts.

Throttle cable?

Im not sure if the DA cable is long enough. Someone needs to confirm.
Im using a random Honda cable that’s long as hell.
Member Silchuki14 is using one from a 91 EF.

Swapping a car that came with abs?

That’s gotta go. Unless you want to relocate the entire system.

Battery

Also needs to be relocated.

Edit - Changed the header info

Sounds good basically everything in a page. seems like so little like that
pics maybe on the new thread would be dope

fuck strictlyda…i live next to this guy and he is a deuce bag in person…lol…but for real he is a fanboy he talks about a j swap so much that u think he had one…well all the info he gets is from me…because im the one with a j swap…so just stop listening to his shit and keep doing u…im thinking about a k series in my DA but still thinking about what to do…as for a j swap dont believe everything u hear…yes its a little heavy but good suspension helps that out…and to defend my swap dont talk shit unless u own,drove or know someone with it because everything u say is just ur opinion about the swap and not fact i know u got a kseries swap so u can talk about how it feels and all that other good stuff but with a j series trust me when i say it is so much fun…and not as crazy as u would think in corners…i give u props with the k swapped DA and please start another thread about the K build…ill get this deuce to stop talking shit…not j series or k series but HONDA 4 LIFE

For sure man. But I said probably didn’t say it was. so with that said please stop this kids flaming rant

[QUOTE=strictlyDA;2178041]\also have a 2000 celica Gts- widebody, lamboo doors, short shifter trd catback ,injen CAI , ported headers on SAFC 2 tuned almost doing 200hp all motor( by me trowing a 50-70 shot NOS would destroy your 240hp k motor.) but i rather not i just like my celica to chill

also have a 2005 cadilla escalade suv weekend car

and my girl has a mini cooperS…

those are my cars basically:shock:[/QUOTE]

Ported header. ROFL. Almost as funny as the widebody and lambo doors.

Beware of Innovative, they don’t seem to be able to send the right mount…

I don’t know for others, but I’ve modded a Karcept Shifter Mounting Kit for a EG Civic. EF may be easier.

I’ve used the Hasport Conversion for the Clutch, Pretty solid but Didn’t have the chance to try it yet

I’ve got and hammered front subframe to clear que clucht adapter. I wasn’t able to use my Alternator
Relocator kit tho

K-Tuned EF Throttle Cable work.

Good looking out on the shifter mounting kit sil. The G2 tunnel is smaller than the eg/ek/dc?

Got pictures of the hasport conversion? Id like to check it out cuz sounds pretty cool.

Gonna try to get some pictures together. So if you guys don`t mind sharing!

BTW the thread has been cleaned up thanks to spikeymike(Thank you) and I edit deleted my stupid posts.:dance::dance:

Hasport just dropped there mounts…if I go k series I will for sure be getting hasport and thanks for cleaning up the crap

Shifterbox Mounting kit pictures:



I think the DA tunnel is smaller on top, but larger just before blending with the floor. (Hope you understand)

(BTW those pics are old)

[QUOTE=Silchuki14;2178225]Beware of Innovative, they don’t seem to be able to send the right mount…

I don’t know for others, but I’ve modded a Karcept Shifter Mounting Kit for a EG Civic. EF may be easier.

I’ve used the Hasport Conversion for the Clutch, Pretty solid but Didn’t have the chance to try it yet

I’ve got and hammered front subframe to clear que clucht adapter. I wasn’t able to use my Alternator
Relocator kit tho

K-Tuned EF Throttle Cable work.[/QUOTE]

:down: for Innovative, they sent me TSX mounts for my swap when I ordered 92-93 Integra mounts. I did however get the right mounts after 3 weeks of harassing them. Just buyer beware if your on a tight timeline.

Hasport is the way yo go IMO.