Legend Brake Upgrade

i know that as an option to shaving the caliper, we can put spacers behind the rotor. i was thinking that i could use a skinned aluminum can and lay enough of them between the hub and the rotor to space the rotor into the middle of the legend caliper. by using the skinned can, i can eliminate the worry of putting stress on the lug studs and create a large contact area for heat dissipation. what do you think?

Sounds like you’ll be having a shaky steering wheel.

you could put the spacers like i also did, but you would have to increase the torque spec on the lugs… if not (in my case) you would have some annoying brake noise to deal with…

I dont guess anyone’s ever seen any comparison for 60-0 times?

Stock VS ITR/ACCORD/VTECPRELUDE VS Legend/NSX

I know it stands to reason that the dual piston caliper would perform somewhat better on the same rotor but im curious as to HOW much better…

[QUOTE=Zenmachine;1992213]I dont guess anyone’s ever seen any comparison for 60-0 times?

Stock VS ITR/ACCORD/VTECPRELUDE VS Legend/NSX

I know it stands to reason that the dual piston caliper would perform somewhat better on the same rotor but im curious as to HOW much better…[/QUOTE]

If you wanna know that badly, buy up all the parts (along with a few aftermarket setups) and do the comparison yourself.

If you wanna know that badly, buy up all the parts (along with a few aftermarket setups) and do the comparison yourself.

I’m sorry I dont even know how to respond to that. I guess just to say that a simple no from you would have sufficed, but maybe you feel a little better than you did before you wrote it, so it’s not a total loss.

Perhaps I can form the question a little better…Here goes:

Has anyone out there ever seen any kind of comparison for 60-0 brake times for different setups on our tegs?

Anyone besides armedflamingo? Oh sry ferret. :smiley: We already know where he stands…NO, he hasnt seen any.

No it hasn’t been “test proven” to work better. I can attest it performs better since they’re on my car and it stops a lot better than before. Have I tested it? No. I might someday.

[QUOTE=Zenmachine;1993370]Perhaps I can form the question a little better…Here goes:

Has anyone out there ever seen any kind of comparison for 60-0 brake times for different setups on our tegs?[/QUOTE]

the reason why you probably wont ever see any kind of this data done on the integra is because each setup must be on the same car for it to have any kind of comparable results. factors such as weight, tires, suspension setup… all have to be constant.

I’ll tell you what. Send me a set of Prelude/ITR/AV6 calipers and I’ll test them out.

little tid bit that I learned the other day…

94-95 GS coupes also had dual piston calipers.

[QUOTE=4sd4dr;1993443]little tid bit that I learned the other day…

94-95 GS coupes also had dual piston calipers.[/QUOTE]

there are no such thing as GS coupes lol

ya there is. local guy who i picked up my 2 piston calipers has one. red v6 tan leather all factory options w/2 piston calipers.

you’re referring to the LS coupes. that is the highest trim they made in the 2dr for the legend.

anyhow any 93-95 Acura Legend Coupe will have the dual piston calipers, L or LS model.

[QUOTE=tilegend;1993523]you’re referring to the LS coupes. that is the highest trim they made in the 2dr for the legend.

anyhow any 93-95 Acura Legend Coupe will have the dual piston calipers, L or LS model.[/QUOTE]

well up until this point everyone thought they only came on the GS sedans…

the reason why you probably wont ever see any kind of this data done on the integra is because each setup must be on the same car for it to have any kind of comparable results. factors such as weight, tires, suspension setup… all have to be constant

Yes, a valid point. I didn’t expect much when I asked but I figured I’d take a shot in case someone had come across something.

Thanks for the constructive input tho guys…

I’ll tell you what. Send me a set of Prelude/ITR/AV6 calipers and I’ll test them out.

hehe If I had them lying around I would totally do it up.

The reason for my original question of course, is that I am willing to bet that the overall stopping difference between a Prelude/ITR/AV6 with ITR pads in comparison to a legend dual piston setup…Would be almost negligable to the average driver, and possibly even to the pro. I have absolutly no data to back that up lol But thats my thought on it at this point. Its too bad we cant accuratly compare the ITR brake times to the NSX because of the overall weight and design differences…hmmm that gives me an idea.

Here’s some info I found with a quick search just now “The ITR brakes from 60-0 at 120ft…The NSX which costs 3 times as much brakes from 60-0 at 115…A mere 5 ft difference” Sourced from http://videos.streetfire.net/comments/17/PhuckU.htm

So, in at least this example the circumstantial evidence would suggest that the overall difference between the two does in fact, borderline on negligible.
5 ft even to a pro, might be hard to notice, and definatly would not warrent putting out hundreds of dollars more for NSX calipers or anything. If you can find the 2 pot legend calipers for the same price as ITR/AV6/Prelude then for sure I’d go with that system. But in my case, using a spacer and matching calipers/rotors instead of mix-matching and grinding would seem like a whole lot less trouble, for a very small loss in brake times…Not to mention it would still be a significant increase from my stock system.

[QUOTE=Zenmachine;1993691]
Here’s some info I found with a quick search just now “The ITR brakes from 60-0 at 120ft…The NSX which costs 3 times as much brakes from 60-0 at 115…A mere 5 ft difference” Sourced from http://videos.streetfire.net/comments/17/PhuckU.htm

So, in at least this example the circumstantial evidence would suggest that the overall difference between the two does in fact, borderline on negligible.
5 ft even to a pro, might be hard to notice, and definatly would not warrent putting out hundreds of dollars more for NSX calipers or anything.[/QUOTE]

Unless, of course, those few hundred dollars help you stop 1 foot short of the deer or child that jumps out in front of your car.

But that would probably never happen. I mean, how often do animals/children run out in front of cars, right?

take into account of vehicle weight, the nsx is 300lbs heavier than an itr. so that 5ft translates to an even shorter stopping distance in a lighter car. food for thought.

take into account of vehicle weight, the nsx is 300lbs heavier than an itr. so that 5ft translates to an even shorter stopping distance in a lighter car. food for thought.

Hmm 300lbs huh? That is quite the difference and would translate into even more of an advantage for the 2 pot system yes. Food for thought indeed., thanks for that.

Unless, of course, those few hundred dollars help you stop 1 foot short of the deer or child that jumps out in front of your car.

lol I knew someone was gonna say somthing about that. Again tho, as I stated earlier, the 2 pot is definately preferred if the option is there. However if not, or if a larger single pot system becomes available to you at a good price…My point (which you have so eloquently proven) was that it would still be very worthwhile to upgrade considering the difference. No matter which way you slice it…That’s a lot of deer and children.

But that would probably never happen. I mean, how often do animals/children run out in front of cars, right?

In all my years of driving and the 2 times driving across this continent I have never come within 5 feet of hitting a deer or a child…The latter expecially not from 60mph :wink: I have though come close enough to know how important good brakes are. And when it comes to brakes…Better is better, no arguments here.

Thanks guys.

I betcha they got the left one too.

Shit… I’ve got a set if anyone is looking.

http://g2ic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190344