Legend Brake Upgrade

yea i thought about it for like 30 seconds and i realized lol. thanks dood. as soon as i get the calipers and Goodrige lines, ill contact you about the rotors.

so theres no estimate for how much to grind? i’ve got my legend calipers and i dont want to grind to much…

i guess this is where the test fitting comes in… damn… i was owned…

you answered your own queston…grind, fit, grind, fit

i found on honda-tech to grind like 1/8th of an inch or so… otherwise shim it that amount

not sure i follow you. shim what exactly?, you mean like put a washer or some kind of spacer? i dont see how thatd work since in both cases your taking material OFF.

1/8th seems to be a good starting point

shim the rotor out, thats all. im going to be shaving material regardless

ah i figured that was it, something about spacing the rotor doesnt set right with me though.

hello fellow brake addicts. Got my nsx brakes and legend rotors read to go…

I really didn’t want to shim the caliper so I found some washers that were the same size as the amount needed to shim… thinking to myself this woudl be much easier setup.

I placed one washer behind the rotor on each lug and mounted the rotor and caliper. the fitment was perfect! right in the middle of the caliper and spun freely.

PROBLEM IS: when i went to put on my 95 gsr wheel (15") it wouldn’t clear the caliper…couldn’t even get the wheel to go on all lugs! Would shaving the caliper bracket help this (instead of washers…what about more washers?) or do you think the nsx caliper is bigger than the legend caliper?

im lookin for some knowledgeable advice to get this project finished…thanks again gentlemen.

heya danny. :slight_smile:

i shot you this same info in an email, but instead of typing it all up in a more coherent fashion, i’m gonna make everyone suffer cause i’m a lazy bitch. :rofl:

i don’t think there’s a size difference–don’t know why there would be, to be honest. they use the same pads (and share that pad also with the “lesser” legend caliper, which is also found on the ITR, several prelude and accord models). it’s possible that some 15" oem wheels won’t clear, but i don’t believe i’ve ever heard of this problem.

just looked in my archived folders on my HDD about this, and i did find a photo of an NSX caliper behind a “fat five” GSR wheel, so i honestly have no idea what the issue might be.

perhaps the NSX caliper is, indeed, a tad “thicker” at the radius I’m adding this information that wasn’t in the email: it’s possible the guy who originated the photo i referenced may have ground a bit off the outside of the caliper to aid clearance(hopefully this makes sense; i’ve been racking my brain studying the past month for E-5 promotion test on thursday so the proper words escape me–my apologies :)) which would be preventing this.

my only suggestion without really getting myself into too much thought right now (sorry, not gonna happen :P) would be to see if you can get some measurements from the NSX guys on one of their forums as to the dimensions of the caliper, and compare that to dimensions on the legend caliper?

ugh…that sounds like too much work. maybe find a buddy with different 15" wheels and see if that clears? hey, that’s probably an easier thing, depending on what the local kids are driving these days by you.

as much as i try to tell myself i won’t think about it, i’m sure i’ll be mulling it over in my head this evening. if i think of anything i’ll let you know. :slight_smile:

lets see some pics! im doing my Legend calipers this month with whatever rotors Mark is doing for me.

dont worry Mark i didnt forget about ya. :salute:

it’s cool.

you’d be waiting till after thursday for me to start on 'em anyway. :stuck_out_tongue:

small washers behind rotor place rotor right in center of caliper, NO FRICTION OR RUBBING when pressed all the way in (like a wheel would do)…but my fat five wont clear the caliper…am i doing something wrong? even griding the whole bracket down (and not using washers) wouldn’t move the caliper or make it clear, any idea guys? i tried 99si wheels and they woudlnt fit either. GRR

daaaaaaaang

my guess…different generation of nsx caliper. check out these pics i found…

notice how the bracket goes over top theirs and is in front of mine…weird…

you probably got newer NSX calipers.

if that’s the case, that would explain the lack of clearance. their external dimensions are much larger than the earlier ones.

time for some wheels :naughty:

setup looks awesome!

Actually Im surprised you got NA2 calipers. You shimmed your rotors? This not a good idea either as it will not allow good heat dissipation, and put more stress on your lug nuts. But unless your not going to the track, maybe thats not a concern for you.

Looks like your hitting on the edge of the calipers with your wheel. Easiest thing to do is, use a wheel offset spacer. Figure out how much you need, and if its more than 1/4", you should probably get extended lug nuts, but I’ve raced with 1/4" on stock lug nuts with no problem.

If your Wheel is still rubbing on the outer caliper, you will need to gring down the outer caliper, probably getting rid of the cooling vanes should be enough, but again, less heat dissapation.

On my NA2 calipers I welded the holes and re-drilled and machined the Caliper bracket. How did you tuk in your caliper?

would a 15" rota have a big (or small) enough offset to clear it? Just curious…

-dk

look into the team dynamics pro race 1’s.

they’re a bit more than rotas, but god DAMN the clearance is amazing.

any pics of how you modded your na2 calipers to fit behind the 15?

This is the best I can do.


so you welded the holes on the BRACKET (where it bolts to hub) THEN drilled new holes (did you just go over a little or up/down any direction?) so that the bracket is closer to the ‘hat’ of the rotor… i see how flush yours is compared to mine…

do you know the offset of those wheels. im debating doing basically the same thing you did but trying to use my 95 gsr if it will clear after modding it. I dont mind taking some time on it and doing it right.

did you have fitment issues with the rotor hitting the inside of the caliper after you re-drilled; was it a test and fit job or just a one timer. thanks again for the help bro.

PS im using a legend rotor, maybe the hats sizes are different from the legends to preludes to itrs to nsxs?