I noticed while looking for new rotors tirerack offered the ATE PremiumOne Slotted Rotor for $52 each in the front. The brembo blanks run at $55 each in the front. I know that the reviews for the brembo blanks are good ,but it looks the same for the ATE PremiumOne Slotted Rotors according to the customer reviews. Anyone have experience with the ATE PremiumOne Slotted Rotors? I would grab them normally ,but there has to be a reason why they are alittle cheaper than the brembo blanks. Thanks
Plans for use: Alot of commuting ,and possibly a track day or two.
Probably just because they don’t have the Brembo name on them or the quality. I think they may be fine.
Honestly though I would spend the extra cash for a known good rotor, blank or slotted( about $100for a pair blanks, and $150 for a pair slotted brembo)
Blank rotors offer better braking. The only time drilled/slotted rotors will benefit rather than hurt you, is if you’re going with oversized units.
Think about it… if you’re using a stock rotor, then take away surface area (drill holes or slots) then you are going to require more use of the pads themselves (pushing the brake pedal harder) to achieve the same stopping-force you would if you had a blank rotor.
But if you oversize the rotor, then slot/drill the rotor… you can still slow the car with the same pedal pressure as with a stock size rotor (which will make your pads last longer), but then you also get the added benefits of the slots/holes actually cooling the rotor faster and expelling gas/debris/heat faster vs blank faces. However an oversized-blank would offer the best initial grip of them all.
Now, the Brembo blanks are believed to be made with a softer metal than those of other companies… so the initial grab of the brakes is awesome, but the rotor itself doesn’t last as long as one made from harder metal. Some people like to run less-expensive (and also harder) NAPA Gold rotors with a good set of pads (Axxis make great pads for the price). This setup that lasts longer than the Brembo blank sroute, but initial bite will be a bit less with the NAPAs.
All that being said, I’ve had both on my car and I lean towards the Brembo blanks as being my favorite.
thanks for all the input. I saw that argument about the reduction in surface area when using slotted or drilled rotors on another thread when I looked around. I wonder if it was you “unified112.”
I’ll likely compare the ebc rotors vs brembo blanks. The ebc rotors look like they remove less material when compared to the ATE slotted rotors.
I am going to be running Brembo Blanks and carbotech pads on my track car. I currently run Brembo blanks and Hawk pads HP Plus on my street car and they work great the only issue with the hawk pads is noise but once they are warm it goes away. I stay away from slotted and/or drilled rotors i understand the concepts just never seen and advantage if you want better brake cooling get wider rotors.
yeah after much thinking that loss of surface area wouldn’t be worth I think.Also, I like that the blanks have bite. I heard the hawk pads are infamous for alot of brake dust.
Yes, hawk pads are dusty as hell!
Your wheels will be covered in dust after 1 or 2 days. I have used both HP+ and HPS and they both dust pretty bad (HP+ much more). The good news is that the dust washes off easily and doesnt “bake” on like some other brands.
IMO: The HP+ are pretty good performance/value for racing.
The HPS’s on the otherhand are not really worth the money. Compared to other brands, they are loud, have bad dusting, and inferior performance (compared to other street pads from other manufacturers). Axxis Metalmasters or EBC green pads are better performance/value compared to Hawk’s HPS in the street pad category.
[QUOTE=wise_old_dragon;2202457]Yes, hawk pads are dusty as hell!
Your wheels will be covered in dust after 1 or 2 days. I have used both HP+ and HPS and they both dust pretty bad (HP+ much more). The good news is that the dust washes off easily and doesnt “bake” on like some other brands.
IMO: The HP+ are pretty good performance/value for racing.
The HPS’s on the otherhand are not really worth the money. Compared to other brands, they are loud, have bad dusting, and inferior performance (compared to other street pads from other manufacturers). Axxis Metalmasters or EBC green pads are better performance/value compared to Hawk’s HPS in the street pad category.[/QUOTE]
Just FYI if anyone is looking for the axxis metalmasters, I saw that they have been renamed to Axxis XBG brake pads according to two merchant.
Update: It seems they still go by the original name too. Also, they seem to be sold under the beck-arnley name but still consider axxis metal masters.
[QUOTE=R1titan911;2202081]I went with the EBC slotted and EBC greens n love em. Prices were good and the rotors were cheaper for slotted than blanks. Bought em at Pepboys.
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I think your rotors are on wrong
Project Mu Rotors, Endless CCA pads, ATE Superblue brake fluid = lovely
To OP: I’ve never seen ATE make rotors before, but they look pretty good I guess. You really don’t need slotted or drilled. If I were to get rotors I would only get slotted and never drilled. Blanks will give best stopping bite/power. I got the rotors I have for looks and cool factor and it’s Project mu! It’s really about the pad you choose though.
Can i get a double check on if there wrong cause i had a left and right box in which i installed correctly. Is it just the brand? or the slot pattern supposed to be like yours? Against the grain opposed to, like mine with the grain… Thanks
[QUOTE=wise_old_dragon;2202457]Yes, hawk pads are dusty as hell!
Your wheels will be covered in dust after 1 or 2 days. I have used both HP+ and HPS and they both dust pretty bad (HP+ much more). The good news is that the dust washes off easily and doesnt “bake” on like some other brands.
IMO: The HP+ are pretty good performance/value for racing.
The HPS’s on the otherhand are not really worth the money. Compared to other brands, they are loud, have bad dusting, and inferior performance (compared to other street pads from other manufacturers). Axxis Metalmasters or EBC green pads are better performance/value compared to Hawk’s HPS in the street pad category.[/QUOTE]
I have to disagree. I have HAWK HPS pads and 2500 miles into them, still no dusting or squealing. I used Advanced Auto Parts blanks. I know the price is steep, but I got mine pre owned and never used, so I can’t really complain. As for the slotted/cross-drilled, it’s not worth your time unless you go high quality. Even Porsche and Ferrari have stated that the brakes they use are more for show than actual performance. They crack after heat-cycling extensively, and they usually offer less stopping power. As for a street application, you can’t turn them on a lathe, so it’s pretty much a lose all the way around.
I’m likely going to pick up the Brembo blanks and ebc green stuff. This is an odd question ,but ,the only thing I’m not changing are the rear rotors, so do I do the normal break in procedure for the rotors and pads all around as normal?
Ok so I finally got the brembo blanks and hawk hps pads. I noticed that instructions seem contradictory to each other. Rotor instructions state to avoid heavy breaking for the first 200-300 miles ,and the pad instructions advise heavy breaking with multiple stops. Looked around a few websites regarding new pads and rotors, you must follow the pad instructions. Would this be correct?
Don’t fuss over the brakes you choose. If you’re not autocrossing or tracking the car more than once a month, just run a oem or parts store setup. There’s no reason to upgrade brakes when you don’t need the added force. Most people start buying fancy setups that never really get used. I don’t recommend any slotted or drilled setups personally b/c i’ve replaced too many sets that have cracked or split. Rotors should NEVER crack or split. If you must upgrade, a brembo blank is my choice ONLY b/c they are very reasonably priced, high quality, and last a damn long time. I even autox with them. Pads wise the axis pads offer better bite at the cost of horrible dust, while the hawk pads offer less dust and superior braking to stock, while having less bite than the axis pads. Both are great. Every EBC product ive used in the past, or seen on a customers car has either been accompanied by a cracked rotor, a seized caliper, or a warped brake piston. I don’t sell or run their stuff anymore.
