i did some searching and i found out that the dc/eg spindles are different and dont bolt to the da without throwing off the suspension geometry. i know the ef and da suspensions are more similar. does anyone know for sure if the ef spindle, or knuckle, works with the da integra suspension or vise versa?
Why are you asking this for? Da spindles aren’t that hard to find.
im asking bc if i can get my hands on a set of these 1.5" drop spindles, available for the ef crx, dc and eg (the last two i cant use), then im going to buy them. id like to come down on my omni’s about another inch and a half, without going into the preload portion of the spring. i could also have the springs cut, or get custom upper springs, but im investigating this spindle option first.
now do you know if ef and da spindles are the same/interchangeable?
well i put da integra spindles/knuckes and brake calipers on my 91 civic hatch and they fit perfectly and the alignment was still in spec all except for toe which needed to be adjusted any way
i guess if it works one way it should work the other
you are going to have the same brakes to match the knuckle
- 90-01 Integras (except the Type-R) and 88-00 Civics with rear disc brakes are all interchangeable onto any EK, EG, EF, DA, and DC Chassis.
- Integra rear disc spindles, compared to civic drums, are 7lbs heavier (per side of course.) Civic spindles with discs weigh less, but I don’t know how much.
- EK9 and DC2 take the same front and rear brake pads and rotors, so if you spent a shit-load of cash on a CTR 5-lug suspension/brake swap, there’s your replacement parts.
- Legend/Vigor caliper ARE similar to the Prelude/Integra-R/Civic-R calipers, though since the Legend/Vigor had the caliper on the back, swap them left to right to keep the bleeder pointing up during bleeding. Not all castings have the same numbers but the dimensions are equivelent
- The Civic 88-00 EX rotor is the 10.3" rotor on all EX model Civics from 88-00 and the same rotor found on Integras 90-01 (exc. Type-R).
- DA and DC calipers are NOT the same.
- 94-96 Integras ALL take the SAME front and rear caliper, rotor, pads. WHY people think the GSR has better brakes I don’t know.
- 94-01 Integras and 97-01 ITRs use the same knuckle, and same wheel bearing.
- 98-01 Integra GSR and ITR models use a 1" Master Cylinder, the same as from a 97-01 Prelude, and will bolt onto the 96-00 Civic stock master cylinder and hardlines with no bending of brakelines, and the fluid resovoir is the same.
that article has some good info.
i got 00 si spindles with the disc and caliper on the front of my da and 00 si disc and calipers on the rear… (brembo crossdrilled ;))
sweet
sure eg/dc spindles bolt up, but throw the geometry off. i dont know about the ek spindles. just bc they bolt up doesnt mean everything is right. we need to get some for sure factual information about this. that thread posted has some good information, but doesnt confirm the positive use of ef spindles on the da. 91da6, thanks for the post. have you had an alignment since the swap?
what brake upgrades are available from oem fir the da9?
by spindle do u mean knuckle or are they completely different
no no allighnment yet but i was in need of one before i did it everything still “seems” the same but i should be getting one at the end of the month when i get my rims and let you guys know
newgrasshopper- yes by spindle i mean knuckle. the term is interchangeable. as far as brake upgrades thats another topic entirely and doesnt have too much to do with the knuckle, most honda caliper bracket mounting holes are in the same place. if you want more info on that topic search or go to www.fastbrakes.com.
back to the topic… how about this question: has anyone used da knuckles on an ef car? if one swaps to the other, they should back swap too.
[QUOTE=almostboosted;1747268]newgrasshopper- yes by spindle i mean knuckle. the term is interchangeable. as far as brake upgrades thats another topic entirely and doesnt have too much to do with the knuckle, most honda caliper bracket mounting holes are in the same place. if you want more info on that topic search or go to www.fastbrakes.com.
back to the topic… how about this question: has anyone used da knuckles on an ef car? if one swaps to the other, they should back swap too.[/QUOTE]
i have DA knuckles on my CRX now… it allows for bigger calipers/rotors.
did a da knuckle swap on a ef hatch and bolted right up.
what is different about the ef knuckles from the da that allowed bigger brakes? im pretty sure just the da brakes would have swapped over onto the crx knuckle but ill get back to you guys on that one for sure. did you just swap the da knuckles and brakes on for ease of installation of integra brakes? there are some really big brake kits that are made for stock ef’s.
the DA caliper wont mount on a CRX knuckle. and without the larger caliper, u cannot run the larger disks.
thats not what i meant, not the caliper, the caliper mounting bracket. i researched it, confirmed it, and am now positive that the holes on the spindle for the bracket that holds the caliper are in the same place. i got the information from the linked thread… and i quote, “You can put the DA calipers and rotors on EX knuckles without any issues.”
who the hell has EX knuckles??? the 90-91 EX civic sedan is pretty damn rare.
so for some one with a CRX, like me as stated above, would need to use EX knuckles or DA knuckles. and when u go to the junkyard or online to find those parts…you will save a tremendous amount of time (searching) if u just get the DA knuckles.
Not to jack this thread, but I have a question along the same line. Not sure if I should start a whole new thread yet.
I don’t usually have a lot of time all in one shot so I was thinking of getting a set of used spindles/knuckles from the junkyard and in my spare time install new bearigns and ball joints. Eventualy I’d swap them onto the car. I’m just wondering if an alignment would be needed if I did this. For various reasons I’ve had three alignments done in the last year and a half and I’m trying to see if I’ll need another one if I do it this way.
[QUOTE=frozenrice;1748621]Not to jack this thread, but I have a question along the same line. Not sure if I should start a whole new thread yet.
I don’t usually have a lot of time all in one shot so I was thinking of getting a set of used spindles/knuckles from the junkyard and in my spare time install new bearigns and ball joints. Eventualy I’d swap them onto the car. I’m just wondering if an alignment would be needed if I did this. For various reasons I’ve had three alignments done in the last year and a half and I’m trying to see if I’ll need another one if I do it this way.[/QUOTE]
thats exactly what i did on these spindles for my CRX. But it’ll work perfectly fine for your car. no alignment would be needed, unless u change the outer tie rod. I would recommend inspecting the tie rod and replace it accordingly though. just get some junk tires on, or tow it to the alignment rack FIRST thing if u do change them.
i guess when i originally posted this what i meant was how similar are the BARE ef and da knuckles. im probably not going to go with the drop spindles as i cannot get any feedback on them. i really think that i can get enough drop on just the coilovers.